iFly Jets 737 MAX8 Released

[Steve Dra 7,588]

8 minutes ago, kmax59 said:

Oh I wanted to do this one after the Envplus release but you've been faster 😛 
Great job Steve !

Hehe....I don't know about fast. 🙂   This one it just the hybrid former Norwegian with white tail and no red swoosh.  It even still has the Norwegian winglets, LOL (well on the outside...the inners are white with a gray AeroMexico logo).

If you want to grab the proper Full AeroMexico paint, please do!  I have others I need to get done. 

[Steve Dra 7,588]

7 hours ago, 787flyer said:

Also just an FYI... G-TUMP is now operating for Sunwings as of this month and currently sports a hybrid livery with the Sunwing titles and tail, but the underlying fuselage retains the wavy blue livery TUI has on their 737s.

Yeah I saw that when I was scanning thru pics of G-TUMP....tempted, LOL.   I created a few Sunwing liveries for the MSFS 737-800 by that other company. 🙂 I wish the texture maps were more compatible...would save me a lot of work, hehe.  If time permits and I find myself looking for another livery, I may pop out a Sunwing Max G-TUMP. 😉 

 

[Bob Scott 7,721]

4 hours ago, cowpatz said:

The more people that contact Mark Foti about this the better. Although he hasn’t done a CDU for any of the iFly series yet.

I knew Mark/AviaWorx hadn't done one for any of the iFly birds.  That said, sut some airplane add-ons do provide their own external CDU access.  The FSL Scarebusses, for example, incorporate a small webserver in the panel code that does the same thing, albeit not as elegantly as the AviaWorx versions.

 

[Juliett Alfa Romeo 541]

Thank you for continuing to support P3D @iflyteam

[okupton 309]

3 hours ago, Bob Scott said:

I knew Mark/AviaWorx hadn't done one for any of the iFly birds.  That said, sut some airplane add-ons do provide their own external CDU access.  The FSL Scarebusses, for example, incorporate a small webserver in the panel code that does the same thing, albeit not as elegantly as the AviaWorx versions.

 

I really like the way fslabs external tablet works.  Would be great if ifly could do something similar and integrate gsx as well, but I have no idea how difficult either of those two things would be. 

[CO2Neutral 278]

Worth every dime of my $40+ upgrade, I'm still amazed at the quality.

[Michael Moe 495]

Tempted to buy. Havent had Ifly since FSX. Is there any manuals included for the Max? Also is MCAS simulated?

Thanks Michael Moe 

[787flyer 633]

1 hour ago, Michael Moe said:

Tempted to buy. Havent had Ifly since FSX. Is there any manuals included for the Max? Also is MCAS simulated?

Thanks Michael Moe 

Yes there are manuals. Detailed operation manual,tutorial and QRH included.

No, MCAS is not simulated if I recall the forum thread about this. There was some sensitivity about including this feature in the simulated aircraft and the Dev team wanted to keep the flight dynamics model as similar to the NG as possible.

 

[Juliett Alfa Romeo 541]

Am I blind or does this not include a Checklist?

PS: is in the "user guide and tutorial".

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[threexgreen 3,142]

5 hours ago, 787flyer said:

Yes there are manuals. Detailed operation manual,tutorial and QRH included.

No, MCAS is not simulated if I recall the forum thread about this. There was some sensitivity about including this feature in the simulated aircraft and the Dev team wanted to keep the flight dynamics model as similar to the NG as possible.

There is not even a point in simulating MCAS the way I see it. The whole point is to make the aircraft fly like the NG by counteracting the excessive nose-up momentum resulting from the lift created by the big engine nacelles at high AOA. All that MCAS does is cancel that out. The reason why MCAS was even noticeable in flight was its horrible design at the time of the accidents, but in its proper state you won't notice it's there, hence no point simulating something in the sim aircraft that 'doesn't exist', so to speak. Just make the aircraft not pitch up excessively at high AOA and you're basically simulating MCAS anyway.

This is the advantage in virtual aircraft, that you can make them behave however you like. You don't have that luxury with real physics obviously. That's why I never understood people asking if MCAS is simulated, because basically the whole point is that to the pilots, 'nothing happens' if it kicks in, so not sure what people are expecting an MCAS simulation to be in the sim.

As for simulating the previous-design-MCAS incidents like other simulated system failures, big no no.

[Steve Dra 7,588]

Prepping Air Canada for the library.....

 

[TopGun33 124]

For your information, Jon at https://airlinerperformance.freeforums.net/ has just released a PFPX Max 8 profile. It requires a 3£ donation though.

[Steve Dra 7,588]

51 minutes ago, TopGun33 said:

For your information, Jon at https://airlinerperformance.freeforums.net/ has just released a PFPX Max 8 profile. It requires a 3£ donation though.

I'm amazed at people sometimes....."Requiring" a donation is an oxymoron.....if its required, then its a payment, thus it no longer qualifies as "freeware" and violates any EULA's he agreed to if he bought the plane via Flight1 and I'm sure with the makers of PFPX. (there is no such thing as "Donationware"....you either pay for it or you don't....if its required to "donate"...then its payware, period.)

I guess the good news is that, by his own admission...the popularity of PFPX and its profiles has pretty much plummeted to the point where this violation may just be irrelevant in the grand scheme of things.  iFly/Flight1 staff do browse this forum/thread so if they want to take action, they will.

Thanks for the heads up.  I don't fault or cast dispersions on folks who want "compensation" for their work...but I don't believe in "required" donations.  If your work is good enough and the folks enjoying it want to tip you, and if you have a method setup for them to do that...more power to ya. But, requiring a donation is just wrong in every sense of the notion.  I imagine, with well over 100,000 downloads scattered over the various sites, my repaints would make me quite wealthy if I decided that I required a donation for you guys to enjoy them. (I know that I'd only have 1/10th of those downloads if I required a donation, not to mention I'd be in violation of EULAs...probably even less than a tenth, hehe).🙂

Air Canada being uploaded to the Flight1 Library as I type....that'll be $3 please. 🤔

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[TopGun33 124]

2 minutes ago, Steve Dra said:

I'm amazed at people sometimes....."Requiring" a donation is an oxymoron.....if its required, then its a payment, thus it no longer qualifies as "freeware" and violates any EULA's he agreed to if he bought the plane via Flight1 and I'm sure with the makers of PFPX. (there is no such thing as "Donationware"....you either pay for it or you don't....if its required to "donate"...then its payware, period.)

I guess the good news is that, by his own admission...the popularity of PFPX and its profiles has pretty much plummeted to the point where this violation may just be irrelevant in the grand scheme of things.  iFly/Flight1 staff do browse this forum/thread so if they want to take action, they will.

Thanks for the heads up.  I don't fault or cast dispersions on folks who want "compensation" for their work...but I don't believe in "required" donations.  If your work is good enough and the folks enjoying it want to tip you, and if you have a method setup for them to do that...more power to ya. But, requiring a donation is just wrong in every sense of the notion.  I imagine, with well over 100,000 downloads scattered over the various sites, my repaints would make me quite wealthy if I decided that I required a donation for you guys to enjoy them. (I know that I'd only have 1/10th of those downloads if I required a donation, not to mention I'd be in violation of EULAs...probably even less than a tenth, hehe).🙂

Air Canada being uploaded to the Flight1 Library as I type....that'll be $3 please. 🤔

Hi Steve,

My point was not to get into an argument about the donationware thinggy, but merely to point out the release of a PFPX profile.

Now, I agree with you, donationware as we do in my country (France) is you choose the amount you want to give, and it can be 0. I encounter it regularly and it works well this way. In Jon's way it is more about payware thing and I agree with you. Maybe people put it as a donation in order to avoid some sort of income tax ?

In this particular case, I'm not sure about the errands surrounding the EULA.

Last but not least, I think I never thank people enough for all the wonderful freeware that are around, and that of course includes all of your repaints.

So... Thank you very much, again 😉

[newtie 533]

29 minutes ago, Steve Dra said:

I'm amazed at people sometimes....."Requiring" a donation is an oxymoron.....if its required, then its a payment, thus it no longer qualifies as "freeware" and violates any EULA's he agreed to if he bought the plane via Flight1 and I'm sure with the makers of PFPX. (there is no such thing as "Donationware"....you either pay for it or you don't....if its required to "donate"...then its payware, period.)

I guess the good news is that, by his own admission...the popularity of PFPX and its profiles has pretty much plummeted to the point where this violation may just be irrelevant in the grand scheme of things.  iFly/Flight1 staff do browse this forum/thread so if they want to take action, they will.

Thanks for the heads up.  I don't fault or cast dispersions on folks who want "compensation" for their work...but I don't believe in "required" donations.  If your work is good enough and the folks enjoying it want to tip you, and if you have a method setup for them to do that...more power to ya. But, requiring a donation is just wrong in every sense of the notion.  I imagine, with well over 100,000 downloads scattered over the various sites, my repaints would make me quite wealthy if I decided that I required a donation for you guys to enjoy them. (I know that I'd only have 1/10th of those downloads if I required a donation, not to mention I'd be in violation of EULAs...probably even less than a tenth, hehe).🙂

Air Canada being uploaded to the Flight1 Library as I type....that'll be $3 please. 🤔

You are absolutely correct.

However, if 3 bucks is going to help a dev stay in the P3D business, I'll do it.