2 minutes ago, Matchstick said:

My suspicion is there's something being triggered by combinations of add-ons but without actual fault logging it's pretty much impossible to say for sure.

What I can say is that so far I can't even get the sim to start with just my Marketplace add-ons present...

Ouch.

6 minutes ago, Matchstick said:

My suspicion is there's something being triggered by combinations of add-ons but without actual fault logging it's pretty much impossible to say for sure.

What I can say is that so far I can't even get the sim to start with just my Marketplace add-ons present...

Try removing any Carenado aircraft. And let us know if this works please.

Edited February 22, 20233 yr by jarmstro

Small trick i learned from every update patch (including betas), which works for me every time. After every update delete your usercfg file and load the game, redo you settings (only graphics settings) and try again. For me i got 15 more fps same case. 10 minute after the 1st try.

4 hours ago, Bam2000 said:

Do you think this is nice

This is how LGRP looks in my SIM and other Airports all the time for month now.

this is how LGRP looks in my sim v1.31.18.0 SU12 beta, with DX12 ON, RTX 4090 @ 4K: what do I have to do to make it look like yours? don't you think this is nice?

είναι όλα εντάξει

Edited February 22, 20233 yr by turbomax

1 minute ago, turbomax said:

this is how LGRP looks in my sim v1.31.18.0 SU12 beta, with DX12 ON, RTX 4090 @ 4K: what do I have to do to make it look like yours? 

είναι όλα εντάξει

Yeah, I took a quick trip there myself after looking at his picture, and didn't see anything out of order. In fact the first picture I posted was from that area

13 minutes ago, jarmstro said:

Try removing any Carenado aircraft. And let us know if this works please.

Cheers, I've just spotted the discussion on Carenado aircraft of the official forum as well.

As things stand I can now load the Sim with the Carenado C170, C337, T182, MR20 and Arrow installed, but if I then add any of the Seneca, Seminole, PC12 or Waco it CTDs on launch.

(I do also have a few of the Carenado Local Legend/Famous Flyers as well but those are all installed with seeming to cause an issue)

Edited February 22, 20233 yr by Matchstick

23 minutes ago, turbomax said:

this is how LGRP looks in my sim v1.31.18.0 SU12 beta, with DX12 ON, RTX 4090 @ 4K: what do I have to do to make it look like yours? 

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Same Setup as yours, with Frame Generation enabled on the RTX4090 and using FSDG LGRP... just left my Airplane on the Apron and configured for the flight, after i looked up it looked like in the Picture. I could zoom out more then the tiles would be looking like in your picture, but after some time the Bing Map data will show again over the Airport Taxiways and Runway... very annyoing. It definitly helps to zoom with drone Cam out from the Airport and Back in, but i have to do it after 30s again, because of this bug

 

EDIT: Here is a Twitch Streamer with the same error: Right at the start of the Video around 17mins you can see the Bug in Action, nut as bad as in LGRP in my Screenshot but its definitly a widespread problem... and somehow on my system its very very bad Link to twitch Stream

😞 

Edited February 22, 20233 yr by Bam2000
Video added 2

Thanks as always to the beta early adopters for flushing out CTDs and other major issues before the rest of us (including me) jump in!

26 minutes ago, Matchstick said:

Cheers, I've just spotted the discussion on Carenado aircraft of the official forum as well.

As things stand I can now load the Sim with the Carenado C170, C337, T182, MR20 and Arrow installed, but if I then add any of the Seneca, Seminole, PC12 or Waco it CTDs on launch.

(I do also have a few of the Carenado Local Legend/Famous Flyers as well but those are all installed with seeming to cause an issue)

Are you using the PMS GTN750? With any of the WT mods? Or the PMS 530 mod? 

Edited February 22, 20233 yr by jarmstro

15 minutes ago, Matchstick said:

........ but if I then add any of the Seneca, Seminole, PC12 .....it CTDs on launch.

all 3 of them work just fine.I start to wonder if I am really part of the SU12 beta? 😀 all my aircraft and airports work and fly smooth and stutter free in 1.31.18.0.

Seneca:

Carenado PC-12:

Seminole:

Following up on my previous post on CTDs, if I only have the PC-12 present from the marketplace content the sim DOESN'T CTD so like the similar seeming issue with the last beta it's being triggered by COMBINATIONS of add-ons interacting.

At this time, someone has any idea about any add-on that's causing issues (CTDs) with the new SU12 beta?

5 minutes ago, Matchstick said:

Following up on my previous post on CTDs, if I only have the PC-12 present from the marketplace content the sim DOESN'T CTD so like the similar seeming issue with the last beta it's being triggered by COMBINATIONS of add-ons interacting.

Is the common denominator an avionics mod such as the PMS? Or maybe the beta forces the WT GNS530 to be universally installed?

Edited February 22, 20233 yr by jarmstro

28 minutes ago, HiFlyer said:

Yeah, I took a quick trip there myself after looking at his picture, and didn't see anything out of order. In fact the first picture I posted was from that area

Thanks for clarification regarding the EGLL picture, I guess you also lowered your TLOD and some other settings for this airport, correct? I could get FPS around 60 with AI traffic on EGLL with adjusted settings, so all fine and a nice example of yours about what FG can do in such CPU limited scenarios. 

Regarding the ground tile bug: it is a bug already present from the beginning of DX12 beta introduction but somehow some are not affected while for others (sadly including myself here) it affects almost 100% of both default and addon airports. It is utterly annyoing, but at least it can be eliminated for some minutes by switching to the dev mode and back. 

The only thing puzzling me atm is the fact that for example on Aerosofts EBBR, one of the heaviest sceneries I have in both FPS and VRAM terms, this issue never occurs. So potentially they have implemented unknowingly a fix for this or they use a special ground tile approach that is not affected by the bug. Who knows...

6 minutes ago, jarmstro said:

Are you using the PMS GTN750? With any of the WT mods? Or the PMS 530 mod? 

This is with a COMPLETELY empty community folder so just the WT530 mod.