7 hours ago, Mace said:

And I can still smell the brake pads burning.

Have you ever tried to shoehorn Concorde into EGLC?  It never even crossed my mind until now.  Probably impossible given the high angle and landing speed.

Never. Concorde requires an absolute minimum runway length of 7000ft. EGLC is 4948ft so not a chance.

Is that also the case in "low fuel, no passengers" mode, Ray? This is a simulator after all

1 hour ago, Christopher Low said:

Is that also the case in "low fuel, no passengers" mode, Ray? This is a simulator after all

Now someone will try to do it no doubt.  

Even if it is manageable in the simulator, I'm still not having it!  I bet nobody would have the gonads to try it in real life!  

I doubt that I would ever try to land Concorde at EGLC London City, but there are a handful of other airports in the UK between 6000 and 7000 feet that I would be keen to use for take off and landing practice if I ever decide to buy the upcoming FSL 64bit Concorde.

4 hours ago, Ray Proudfoot said:

Never. Concorde requires an absolute minimum runway length of 7000ft. EGLC is 4948ft so not a chance.

G-AXDN landed at Duxford which was 6000ft overall with room to spare, granted Trubshaw was PIC and it had a parachute. All aircraft can often overachieve their stated performance because the numbers are corrected for line pilots, and mitigate mechanical stress 

The limiting factor is often the take off roll is longer than the landing distance required, this was definitely the case at Duxford 

Edited May 10, 20233 yr by kand

21 minutes ago, kand said:

G-AXDN landed at Duxford which was 6000ft overall with room to spare, granted Trubshaw was PIC and it had a parachute.

Not forgetting it had no passengers. Just crew probably and absolute minimum fuel. Plus needs must of course. 😁

59 minutes ago, kand said:

G-AXDN landed at Duxford which was 6000ft overall with room to spare, granted Trubshaw was PIC and it had a parachute. 

Bare in mind it was landed at Duxford with the full knowledge that it was never going to fly anywhere again.

Same goes for their B52.

3 hours ago, Christopher Low said:

Is that also the case in "low fuel, no passengers" mode, Ray? This is a simulator after all

I don’t know what the minimum fuel requirements were for training flights but for those with passengers it had to have 10T on landing. There is an option to load fuel for your scenario in the existing FSL Concorde-X but it’s not one I’ve tried.

Concorde had charter flights to Liverpool on Grand National weekend. Runway length is 7500ft. You’ll need to get the nose wheel down sharpish before full reverse thrust and braking can be applied. Landing speed would be around 155kts.

23 minutes ago, DD_Arthur said:

Bare in mind it was landed at Duxford with the full knowledge that it was never going to fly anywhere again.

Same goes for their B52.

Not going to bare my mind for anyone.

1 minute ago, IanHarrison said:

Not going to bare my mind for anyone.

I have trouble with my left and right too😆!

2 hours ago, kand said:

G-AXDN landed at Duxford which was 6000ft overall with room to spare, granted Trubshaw was PIC and it had a parachute. All aircraft can often overachieve their stated performance because the numbers are corrected for line pilots, and mitigate mechanical stress 

The limiting factor is often the take off roll is longer than the landing distance required, this was definitely the case at Duxford 

Duxford's runway is only 5000 feet long. Was it longer back in the day?

Edited May 10, 20233 yr by Christopher Low

7 hours ago, Ray Proudfoot said:

Never. Concorde requires an absolute minimum runway length of 7000ft. EGLC is 4948ft so not a chance.

But if I'm not mistaken, Ray, a Concorde landed at Exeter? (Why I know not). And took off. The runway length is I believe 6800ft and it was even shorter back then? And by the looks of it it managed to exit the runway on Bravo well before the end?

 

Edited May 10, 20233 yr by jarmstro

2 hours ago, DD_Arthur said:

I have trouble with my left and right too😆!

Glad you took it in the spirit that I meant.😉

40 minutes ago, jarmstro said:

But if I'm not mistaken, Ray, a Concorde landed at Exeter? (Why I know not). And took off. The runway length is I believe 6800ft and it was even shorter back then? And by the looks of it it managed to exit the runway on Bravo well before the end?

I did a quick Google search and found that length. I don’t dispute it can land on a shorter one. Landing weight is important.

I own all of UK airport scenery for FS2020. Also I own orbx London city airport because UK did not have a version of LC. I'm going to stick with what I have because I can't justify buying the same airport because one is newer and no change in performance or appearance. Especially since Orbx is releasing a V2 very soon. I wish UK will do an UK airport that is not available like EGKK or some of the Ireland or Scottish airports.