June 16, 20232 yr Under wishlist, seasons has been 'started' for a while now. Not anymore. The FS2024 trailer showed seasons, so this is a strong suggestion that seasons won't make it to 2020.
June 16, 20232 yr Maybe they have got to prioritise some other section of 2020 first. I see it's still planned. AMD Ryzen 7 5800x3d, MSI X570 Pro, 32 gb DDR4 3600 ram, Gigabyte 6800 16gb GPU, 1x 2tb Samsung NvMe , 1x 2tb Sabrent NvME, 1x Crucial 4tb Nvme M2 Drive
June 16, 20232 yr I mean seasons are coming with 2024, not sure why they would bring it to 2020 as well? AMD Ryzen 7 7800X3D, 64GB DDR5 6000MHZ RAM, RX7900XT, FreeSync 165hz 1440p display
June 16, 20232 yr 14 minutes ago, omarsmak30 said: I mean seasons are coming with 2024, not sure why they would bring it to 2020 as well? Because probably not all people goeing to MSFS 2024 ?? 🤔 cheers 😉 08.2024 new PC is online : ASUS ROG STRIX X670E-F GAMING WIFI Mainboard, AMD Ryzen™ 9 7950X3D Prozessor, G.Skill DIMM 64 GB DDR5-6000 (2x 32 GB) Dual-Kit, MSI GeForce RTX 4090 VENTUS 3X E 24G OC Grafikkarte, 2x WD Black SN850X NVMe SSD 4 TB - Drive C+D, WD Gold Enterprise Class 12 TB for storage HDD, Thermaltake Toughpower GF3 1000W PC - Power supply, Thermalright Phantom Spirit 120 EVO CPU Aircooler with 7 Heatpipes, Design Meshify 2 White TG Clear Tint Tower-Case, 3x 4K monitors 2x32 Samsung 1x27 LG 3840x2160, Windows11 Prof. 23H2 - now Windows11 Prof. 25H2 Flightsimulator Hardware: Honeycomb Throttle Bravo, Logitech Extreme 3D Pro, Logitech Flight Joke System, XBox Controller, some Thrustmaster stuff, Winwing CDU Panels.
June 16, 20232 yr Seriously, I still wonder how many resources were "wasted" in the development of MSFS 2024 that could have been used in bug fixing in MSFS 2020 as such that many bugs would have already been fixed in the last 2 years... We will never know... Greetings, Chris AMD Ryzen 7 9800X3D, 2x32GB DDR5 6000MT/s RAM, MSI RTX 4090 Ventus 3X, Windows 11 Home, MSFS2024
June 16, 20232 yr The First step is you would need to Decide to Buy FS2024. http://youtube.com/c/Greazer
June 16, 20232 yr 1 hour ago, AnkH said: Seriously, I still wonder how many resources were "wasted" in the development of MSFS 2024 that could have been used in bug fixing in MSFS 2020 as such that many bugs would have already been fixed in the last 2 years... We will never know... Jorg and MS likely realized they could monetize feature requests and thus the most requested items will now cost us all money in form of MS2024. Eric
June 16, 20232 yr 1 hour ago, AnkH said: Seriously, I still wonder how many resources were "wasted" in the development of MSFS 2024 that could have been used in bug fixing in MSFS 2020 as such that many bugs would have already been fixed in the last 2 years... We will never know... It's a moot point because you can always boil every single thing they do down to 'could they have spent those resources on something I wanted?' and secondly, would those resources even have existed and been allocated if they didn't have some greater end goal, like further monetization, increasing audience or otherwise? MSFS could be on a skeleton crew, to simply maintain the sim at operational status, meaning no resources to fix anything or add features and no development of new DLC nor MSFS 2024. [MSI MPG X870E Carbon | 9800X3D (PBO +200Mhz / -20 Offset) | Corsair 64GB DDR5 (Custom Timings) | RTX 4090 Founders Edition (Undervolted) | WD SNX 850X 4TB + 4TB | Antec Flux Pro]
June 16, 20232 yr Just focusing in on this seasons wishlist feature item, and how MS/Asobo were working on it and had it marked as "Started" and recently moved it to "Planned" kind of indirectly shows their evolution in thinking and decision of planning a new base sim release in 2024. In that, it must have been a recent decision to do a 2024 release, and that aligns with what the head of MS/Xbox studios says in https://youtu.be/ZszOBVoREVg?t=8535 , i.e. some of the feature improvements they were working on became big enough to warrant a new release (graphics, weather, flight dynamics, seasons, etc). Of course it'd be also ideal to put in a feature like seasons into 2020 still and earlier than the 2024 release, but if seasons requires more foundational feature improvements like graphics and/or weather let's say, then that'd mean only 2024 will have them (unless most/all of 2024 improvements are given for free to 2020 which then means no point in having a 2024 release at all). I have a feeling the new 3D trees seen in the 2024 trailer also is a pre-requirement for seasons to be fully realized. Edited June 16, 20232 yr by lwt1971 Len 1980s: Sublogic FS II on C64 ---> 1990s: Flight Unlimited I/II, MSFS 95/98 ---> 2000s/2010s: FS/X, P3D, XP ---> 2020+: MSFS Current system: i9 13900K, RTX 4090, 64GB DDR5 4800 RAM, 4TB NVMe SSD
June 16, 20232 yr 2 hours ago, AnkH said: Seriously, I still wonder how many resources were "wasted" in the development of MSFS 2024 that could have been used in bug fixing in MSFS 2020 as such that many bugs would have already been fixed in the last 2 years... We will never know... isn't seasons a highly requested feature? AMD Ryzen 7 7800X3D, 64GB DDR5 6000MHZ RAM, RX7900XT, FreeSync 165hz 1440p display
June 16, 20232 yr I don't think any resources were "wasted" on 2024, as I don't think LM wasted resources developing version 5 and not investing more into version 4; LR investing into X-Plane 12 and not fixing more things with 11. Not that different than purchasing a new updated scenery, which I have done a number of times over the years. The platform, which is the best for flight simulation that I have experienced, is continuing to develop and it makes complete sense to me that at some point you begin working on features and functions that are substantive enough to say this is now a new version and requires a new purchase. It seems this is what was done and it seems like an organic decision that emerged from their efforts to keep updating the sim; there was no wasted effort, the effort just led to a point when management determined these features define a new version. All of this development needs to be financed to continue, or it will just stop like FSX. I feel I got more than enough value out of the 60 dollars I spent for the standard version nearly 3 years ago and that this step is warranted. I am excited for a new version, the same excitement I had when FS2000 came out and I moved from FS98; from 2000 to 2002, from 2002 to 2004 and to FSX in 2006. Edited June 16, 20232 yr by Cognita MSFS 2024. Primary Planes: Black Square TBM850, Duke, Baron, Caravan; A2A Comanche; FSReborn Phenom; Fexix A321; PMDG 737-7, 777: Utilities: Active Sky (Passive Mode); BATC, FSLTL.
June 16, 20232 yr When FS2020 was released I remember that they stated that we would not only receive free updates but also paid updates. No one is that naive to think that we would pay 1 time and then receive continues updates and improvements for 10 year …. At least most of us here are not …. 🤠 5950x3d 5.4-5.7 GHz - Asus ROG 870 Crosshair Apex - GSkill Neo 2x 24 Gb 6000 mhz / cas 26 - MSI RTX 5090 Gaming Trio OC - 1x SSD M2 6000 2TB - 1x SSD M2 2800/1800 1Tb - Corsair 5400 case - Corsair 360 liquid cooling set - 3x 75’ TCL tv. 13600 6 cores @ 5.1 GHz / 8 cores @ 4.0 GHz (hypterthreading on) - Asus ROG Strix Gaming D - GSkill Trident 4x Gb 3200 MHz cas 15 - Asus TUF RTX 4080 16 Gb - 1x SSD M2 2800/1800 2TB - 2x Sata 600 SSD 500 Mb - Corsair D4000 Airflow case - NXT Krajen Z63 AIO liquide cooling - FOV : 200 degrees My flightsim vids : https://www.youtube.com/user/fswidesim/videos?shelf_id=0&sort=dd&view=0
June 16, 20232 yr Regarding "Seasons", are people talking about the changing vegetation and terrain according to the time of the year?. Aren't they already covered in MSFS2020 by external programs like REX AccuSeasons or Bijan?. To me, any of those two make really a good work. Sorry for the question, but maybe I'm confused. Cheers, Ed MSFS2020 Steam // Rig: Corsair Graphite 760T Full Tower - ASUS MBoard Maximus XII Hero Z490 - CPU Intel i9-10900K - 64GB RAM - MSI RTX2080 Super 8GB - [1xNVMe M.2 1TB + 1xNVMe M.2 2TB (Samsung)] + [1xSSD 1TB + 1xSSD 2TB (Crucial)] + [1xSSD 1TB (Samsung)] + 1 HDD Seagate 2TB + 1 HDD Seagate External 4TB - Monitor LG 29UC97C UWHD Curved - PSU Corsair RM1000x // Thrustmaster FCS & MS XBOX Controllers
June 16, 20232 yr I mean c'mon! If you are happily willing to pay for RTX4090 more than 2000$ and now you are getting stingy after 4 years to pay 50$ again which they promised it will contain more features? I mean people here are forgetting something, Microsoft doesn't give a word not allowed about a game or simulator, if a game doesn't produce a good $$ at end of the quarter sheet, they will just go ahead, scrap it and layoff the whole teams behind it (they have done it already so). So if you want the franchise to continue, you have to support it like how you'd support 3rd party developers (oh actually they are both related), AMD Ryzen 7 7800X3D, 64GB DDR5 6000MHZ RAM, RX7900XT, FreeSync 165hz 1440p display
June 16, 20232 yr 19 minutes ago, edpatino said: Regarding "Seasons", are people talking about the changing vegetation and terrain according to the time of the year?. Aren't they already covered in MSFS2020 by external programs like REX AccuSeasons or Bijan?. To me, any of those two make really a good work. It's not fully clear what they mean by seasons, yet. What AccuSeasons does is basically paint the trees different colors but what Asobo was initially talking about was seasons that changed all vegetation, sky coloring, water freezing, fauna migration, etc. The question is how much of this they have done for 2024. But I for one will be happy to have seasons incorporated and not need a separate program. MSFS 2024. Primary Planes: Black Square TBM850, Duke, Baron, Caravan; A2A Comanche; FSReborn Phenom; Fexix A321; PMDG 737-7, 777: Utilities: Active Sky (Passive Mode); BATC, FSLTL.
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