Plus AIG models are worse compared to FSLTL. The latter has much more immersive sounding planes, and the lights are so much better as well. I find that FSLTL offers the more complete and better package. I also have the full AIG package installed with every single flight plan as well.

1 hour ago, Tuskin38 said:

Not anymore. And there's more updates coming making it more streamlined and easier to use.

Not sure if you're part of their internal beta but the current public beta (bearing in mind this software has been in beta for 3 years) that most of us have access to isn't the most straight forward to setup and it takes a entire afternoon to load. 

That said, my issue isn't with the AI Manager, or the inferior lighting effects, or the inferior sounds - its with the injector. It crashes....a lot. Sometimes it just stops injecting traffic. Sometimes it just shuts down. This doesn't seem to be an issue with FSLTL. Not sure why they've got it so much better than AIG in this regard.

 

8 hours ago, KL Oo said:

Not sure if you're part of their internal beta but the current public beta (bearing in mind this software has been in beta for 3 years) that most of us have access to isn't the most straight forward to setup and it takes a entire afternoon to load. 

You can literally download and fully install FSLTL in the time it takes either the (already fully installed) AIG Manager or Traffic Injector to open on my brand-new system. Whatever else can be said for AIG’s merits, that’s bonkers.

22 minutes ago, honanhal said:

You can literally download and fully install FSLTL in the time it takes either the (already fully installed) AIG Manager or Traffic Injector to open on my brand-new system. Whatever else can be said for AIG’s merits, that’s bonkers.

No, he means AiG takes an afternoon to set up, while FSLTL is super easy. 

On 7/15/2023 at 9:00 AM, SuperKaro2014 said:

Thanks all, super helpful.

Moderators please feel free to lock this thread.

 

…And all the while, poor superkaro is still no closer to any help with their problem regarding AI traffic lights.

6 hours ago, JonathanC said:

No, he means AiG takes an afternoon to set up, while FSLTL is super easy. 

Oh no, I know! AIG also takes forever to set up. I just meant that even the act of opening the program takes bizarrely forever. 😀

19 hours ago, Tuskin38 said:

Well that's untrue.

Sitting at JFK

AIG 231:

FSLTL 196 :

 

Though it also depends on how many airlines you have installed for AIG. I have every single one installed.

 

Not anymore. And there's more updates coming making it more streamlined and easier to use.

test it in Spain and tell us the results 

This is just an extremely weird conversation, with denying facts for supporting one's own conclusions and observations or favorite solution.

FSLT is a cleaner interface, easier and (much) faster to setup, but includes a fraction of the models of AIG (if you install ALL of them!). That being said, FSTL is most likely sufficient for most people. AIG is cumbersome, clunky, confusing and time-consuming to setup. If you need to install all models/flightplans, it can probably take a couple of days (depending on your internet connection and computer). But AIG just includes SO many more models (including military and government aircrafts etc), that it's just unmatched in the sheer number of models and flightplan coverage.

Personally I use AIG in conjunction with PSXT/RealTraffic and it gives a variaty and model matching which is just unpresented. The other day, I sat and planespotted with AIG and PSXT at EKCH one afternoon, and was dumbfounded, at the level of accuracy, that it was able to match not only the model but the exact livery, which was present in the real world. 

5 hours ago, Redge said:

…And all the while, poor superkaro is still no closer to any help with their problem regarding AI traffic lights.

😂😂😂

I am having popcorn watching this unfold. Truly amazing @Redge 👍🏻

I like both. Anywho, both of them seem to have no problem with their lights or contrails.

FSLTL is great, easy to use but it is only online traffic.

AIG inject traffic for the time of day you're flying in the location you have chosen. That's important for me because I fly everywhere and don't want to fly in the UK at 0300 in the morning. I'd rather take off right before daylight etc and see traffic around me.

That being said, AIG installer used to be lengthy but it's improved. Sometimes the injector crashes too. Then again, my FSTLT will crash sometimes as well.

AIG configurator is very easy to use. There is only one choice of models in MSFS, as FSP stopped any development for MSFS. The choice of models, liveries are FAR superior than in FSLTL. I use AIG models + PSXT Pro with historical data. RL flights, RL models and liveries at RL gates.

11 minutes ago, Sonosusto said:

AIG inject traffic for the time of day you're flying in the location you have chosen. That's important for me because I fly everywhere and don't want to fly in the UK at 0300 in the morning. I'd rather take off right before daylight etc and see traffic around me.

Interesting? Does FSTL inject traffic based on the real-time, not sim-time? (Could explain, why I sometime have so few AI planes around me... 😕 )

8 minutes ago, anden145 said:

Interesting? Does FSTL inject traffic based on the real-time, not sim-time? (Could explain, why I sometime have so few AI planes around me... 😕 )

It's why I switched back to AIG when flying out of my timezone. FSLTL does live traffic (from flight radar? etc) only. I am not sure about their VFR traffic setting though.

Since I fly with both, I will use FSLTL if I am flying at a time I prefer (like if I wake up early here in the PNW at 0500 and start flying, or between that and around 10pm ish) but will switch to AIG if I am flying in Africa, Europe, Japan etc.

27 minutes ago, Sonosusto said:

It's why I switched back to AIG when flying out of my timezone. FSLTL does live traffic (from flight radar? etc) only. I am not sure about their VFR traffic setting though.

Since I fly with both, I will use FSLTL if I am flying at a time I prefer (like if I wake up early here in the PNW at 0500 and start flying, or between that and around 10pm ish) but will switch to AIG if I am flying in Africa, Europe, Japan etc.

Interesting. I didn't know that. Good to know.

Real traffic effectively prohibits me flying in Europe and daylight flights in the US. That’s why I prefer PSXT Pro