MSFS is a pain

[Christopher Low]

12 hours ago, WestAir said:

......Hopefully all of this will be solved in 2024. I'm hoping the "sim object limit" will be limitless and all memory leaks are fixed with the new terrain. Fingers crossed. 🤞

I will be keeping an eye on stuff like that when the time comes. Sim Object limits sound rather strange for a 2023 simulator.

[Dominique_K]

8 minutes ago, Christopher Low said:

I will be keeping an eye on stuff like that when the time comes. Sim Object limits sound rather strange for a 2023 simulator.

MSFS works well with my 4770+1080 combo and lousy connection. There might be technical reasons for this, limitations,  don't you think ? MSFS is a balancing act, bringing new technologies (flight modeling, graphics etc.) but in the same time catering to old machines, I love it.

As for 2024, this becomes like the Second Coming. This and this and this sucks but wait for 2024, all the sins will be erased  ! Yes, and FS24 will bring World peace too. 

Nope, it does not work that way.  At keeping your eyes to an uncertain future you will never enjoy this sim, Christopher. It has flaws  today and will have flaws in 2024. But it is already a great game. Now 😉. 

[Farlis]

The biggest pain are the slow word not allowed servers! I'm trying to currently download the recent update to the WU14 and the bloody thing downloads at a 10th of what my connection can actually provide...

[Ricardo41]

23 hours ago, anden145 said:

Must really be difficult being software/game developer these days...

Often, users blame the developers/games for being unstable or badly developed, when it's actually their system, which is to blame. System corruption due to virus/malware, corrupt system files, un-updated OS or drivers etc, which is to blame for their issues.

But of course, it's never the customers system or actions. It's much easier and convinient, to blame someone else. It must be someone else's fault. 

This. MSFS running from Day 1. No issues whatsoever. Maybe 1 or 2 CTDs. MSFS is as smooth as a stripper's butt!

 

Edited August 1, 2023 by Ricardo41

[WestAir]

32 minutes ago, Dominique_K said:

It is already a great game. Now 😉. 

Assuming you don't accidentally buy hardware that gives you problems, or unknowingly use the wrong combination of add-ons, or run the wrong peripherals, or use a bad combination of drivers, or use the wrong game settings, or do any number of things simmers have done that lead to day-ruining issues. 😂

Sometimes it feels like playing the lottery. It's amazing when you win, but when you lose you feel like you wasted time and money.

Edit: Not to you Dom, but something I've seen in this thread: I think one of the biggest problems with AVSIM is that we kind of tend to dismiss people when they raise concerns, so long as what's happening to them isn't happening to us or what feature they desire we couldn't care less about. Really wish we'd stop doing that.

Edited August 1, 2023 by WestAir

[Peter Webber]

9 minutes ago, Ricardo41 said:

This. MSFS running from Day 1. No issues whatsoever. Maybe 1 or 2 CTDs. MSFS is as smooth as a stripper's butt!

 

I don't know where you are located, but the strippers in my area do not have "smooth butts"!

[sonny147]

now we talking ! much better than 4090 or 4080 , stutters no stutters dreary conversation lol and women's football , yes football not soccer, looking at you north Americans is way more easy on the eye 😉

Edited August 1, 2023 by sonny147

[Dominique_K]

1 hour ago, WestAir said:

 wish we'd stop doing that.

I am an old simmer so I tend to be cautious with addons and additional hardware and new drivers etc . 

 Avsim, lot of good people, including old (and sometimes knowledgeable) simmers, some boors, some f@nboys 😄. I love the multinational flavor it has which is stronger with MSFS than before, I think. Ignoring the boors is the starting point of happiness.

[Noel]

7 hours ago, Dominique_K said:

This one is utter rubbish and doesn't say anything one way or another

88% said no problems my friend nothing rubbish about that.  Of course it's incomplete, but it says what it says.

[Noel]

7 hours ago, MarcG said:

58 votes from 12 million users nearly 3 years ago is anything BUT highly significant 🤣🤣🤣 sorry Noel but that poll is about as useful as washing tablet in the ocean 😉

The poll was visible for one month.  You can be certain those that had problems would have been happy to respond accordingly in that simple poll and guess what?  88% had NO PROBLEMS.   And again, this was early on where problems would very likely been worse than currently.  

[Christopher Low]

2 hours ago, Dominique_K said:

.......MSFS works well with my 4770+1080 combo and lousy connection. There might be technical reasons for this, limitations,  don't you think ? MSFS is a balancing act, bringing new technologies (flight modeling, graphics etc.) but in the same time catering to old machines, I love it......

I have an old machine like you, but I prefer to adjust the settings myself. Hard coded object limits do not afford me that luxury. In other words, throw as much detail at me as you can, and let me decide what I can comfortably get away with!

[Noel]

7 hours ago, Dominique_K said:

Give me a break, will you ? The team has acknowledged that huge portions of the planet have been replaced by offline textures because of a LOD issue in the images.

What I stated is absolutely correct, for me.  Image quality is at least as good or better than ever.  This could be a function of where I fly and where you fly.  When I flew thru the area that looked poor that must have been one of the areas you're referring to.  But very often now--better than ever.  

[Noel]

13 hours ago, F737MAX said:

Yet, calling MS Store difficulties an urban myth is disingenuous, especially when using such a limited dataset to form that opinion.

Feel free to post another poll--right now that was the only piece of data to go on the rest are pure anecdote.  We have people stating unequivocally Steam is less troublesome, but again, based on what?  The number of people reporting issues with the Store install?  All pure conjecture....

[Noel]

8 hours ago, Dominique_K said:

- the MS Store version UI was more convoluted and has disoriented many people. No bug here, just user-unfriendliness.

I agree this is the primary source of problems with the store install.  I had no problems understanding it and have done three complete installs and one into a new OS install.  Zero issues with any off it, just like the 88% who did respond to that poll.  You are I'm sure correct to state there are vastly more Store installers than Steam so of course you will read of more issues w/ those who couldn't follow how to install the sim via the store.  There are threads dedicated to problems w/ Steam as well.

[MarcG]

19 minutes ago, Noel said:

The poll was visible for one month.  You can be certain those that had problems would have been happy to respond accordingly in that simple poll and guess what?  88% had NO PROBLEMS.   And again, this was early on where problems would very likely been worse than currently.  

...on one forum, of which a vast majority of users don't ever visit let alone sign up too in order to vote in the first place! Sorry Noel but that polls "results" are pointless in the grand scheme of things, no matter how much you want to defend it. 🙂