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A2A Comanche goes boing-boing-boing

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Is it just me or does the Comanche landing feel like you are on a trampoline?  My speed is good, attitude is good, but the darn thing loves to bounce.  What are your secrets or do you happily bounce it in?

 

 

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What are you settings? Turbulence? Hardware (peripherals and sensitivity settings)? Latest update?

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It land exactly as I remember it. The secret is "practice".

 

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Interesting. It never bounces when I land. I can't say if I do land it in another way than other small planes.

Proper speed crossing the threshold and then 'hold it off' and let it settle onto the runway.

You can't plant it on (like bigger aircraft) or you'll get a bounce. Once you've bounced, either go around and try again, or just hold your pitch and let it, eventually settle.

Trying to recover from a bounced landing is tricky and can result in porpoise-ing with increasing amplitude. Hello collapsed nose gear. 

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12 minutes ago, RichieFly said:

Proper speed crossing the threshold and then 'hold it off' and let it settle onto the runway.

You can't plant it on (like bigger aircraft) or you'll get a bounce. Once you've bounced, either go around and try again, or just hold your pitch and let it, eventually settle.

Trying to recover from a bounced landing is tricky and can result in porpoise-ing with increasing amplitude. Hello collapsed nose gear. 

....or prop strike 

 

 

 

Piper should have used phrases like Flying Brick and Trampoline Landing in their advertising campaign in Aviation magazines. 

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5 minutes ago, Fielder said:

Piper should have used phrases like Flying Brick and Trampoline Landing in their advertising campaign in Aviation magazines. 

Or, " A Plane that requires the pilot to know how to fly". 

 

 

 

1 hour ago, diajohn said:

Is it just me or does the Comanche landing feel like you are on a trampoline?  My speed is good, attitude is good, but the darn thing loves to bounce.  What are your secrets or do you happily bounce it in?

 

 

Retract flaps just before touchdown and she will sit down nice.

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3 minutes ago, Ixoye said:

Retract flaps just before touchdown and she will sit down nice.

Hard NO! Better to learn how to manage speed, round up and flare.

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It's you. If you are bouncing down the runway then your speed is not "good".

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5 minutes ago, Ixoye said:

Retract flaps just before touchdown and she will sit down nice.

Uhh, no.

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5 minutes ago, sd_flyer said:

Hard NO! Better to learn how to manage speed, round up and flare.

That's how Scott at A2A does in real life and recommend.

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1 minute ago, Ixoye said:

That's how Scott at A2A does and recommend.

I think perhaps you misunderstand and that he said, or at least meant, to pull them up once the aircraft is firmly on the runway. That seems to be normal practice and that's how I have been seeing comanche pilots do it in reality.

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