27 minutes ago, carlanthony24 said:

Turns out one YouTuber did not buy he was gifted by an “anonymous person” breaking terms and condition's/EULA oops.

Same YouTuber who slanders other products. 

I presume you mean 737NG driver. I haven’t watched his MD-11 stream, so I don’t know how he obtained the aircraft. It would be between him and TFDI if he did it “wrongly”.

What do you mean he “slanders” other products? He is a reviewer - he wouldn’t be worth much in that role if he only saw the positive points in a product and never mentioned any negatives. While he started out mainly featuring the PMDG 737, he has branched out to many other products - both for MSFS and X-Plane.

He had some justifiable criticisms of the initial release of the Fenix, but they hardly amount to “slander”. He was much more favorably impressed by later revisions. He thinks very highly of the XP Toliss Airbus products, and has some very good opinions of XP in general.

Why is it perfectly OK for AVSIM users to be extremely negative and critical of released aircraft and developers, but it is “slander” for a professional pilot and YouTuber to say anything even slightly bad about products they review?

BTW, he is not an employee of PMDG. He is an official beta tester of their products, but he is not on their paid staff.

52 minutes ago, JRBarrett said:

I presume you mean 737NG driver. I haven’t watched his MD-11 stream, so I don’t know how he obtained the aircraft. It would be between him and TFDI if he did it “wrongly”.

What do you mean he “slanders” other products? He is a reviewer - he wouldn’t be worth much in that role if he only saw the positive points in a product and never mentioned any negatives. While he started out mainly featuring the PMDG 737, he has branched out to many other products - both for MSFS and X-Plane.

He had some justifiable criticisms of the initial release of the Fenix, but they hardly amount to “slander”. He was much more favorably impressed by later revisions. He thinks very highly of the XP Toliss Airbus products, and has some very good opinions of XP in general.

Why is it perfectly OK for AVSIM users to be extremely negative and critical of released aircraft and developers, but it is “slander” for a professional pilot and YouTuber to say anything even slightly bad about products they review?

BTW, he is not an employee of PMDG. He is an official beta tester of their products, but he is not on their paid staff.

Yep first video he said it was gifted by someone. Doesn't take much to guess that is not allowed. You need to keep up with other threads. He really is not a reviewer if all you do is talk word not allowed on products besides one he gives "advice for"

FSS were talked bad on, even talked bad about TDFI before the product released bringing in laws they should be following, Ironic to be honest and others. Its okay to being negative but then constant negative coming from a guy who is effectively self employed while also being a pilot doing it purely for money at the end of the day.  its making people aware that in fact he is using an illegal copy which he is quick enough to have a go at other people for claiming laws left right and centre.

 

Which all know he is not an employee but you don't show bias towards one product. 

Since this was an MD11 thread and people may show his videos I was just making them aware his is not a legit copy because if it was a legit copy he would of mentioned it was provided by TFDI or paid for. Not gifted by anonymous.

Edited November 11, 20232 yr by carlanthony24

1 hour ago, carlanthony24 said:

Yep first video he said it was gifted by someone. Doesn't take much to guess that is not allowed. You need to keep up with other threads. He really is not a reviewer if all you do is talk word not allowed on products besides one he gives "advice for"

Unless TFDI themselves state that there has been some kind of EULA violation, it would be pure speculation on your part to state there has been. Somebody paid for it. It wasn’t stolen. If they chose to give up their copy, so be it.

I have watched much of his content over the past year. You make it sound like it is a constant stream of negativity and criticism and it is not. Some of his critiques of things that don’t work correctly in various products are correct - some perhaps not. I’d give more credibility to someone who is a working airline pilot than someone who has only flown simulated aircraft.

He has as much right to state his opinions- good or bad- as you do. If you don’t agree with what he says, or don’t like his presentation style that’s fine. But to say that he is slandering “other” developers is disingenuous. “Other” than what? He is not a developer. And though he started out mainly featuring PMDG products, he is not a PMDG employee.

I have heard him critique faults in PMDG products too. LNAV behavior, some bugs in the new EFB and others. He has never implied that PMDG is perfect - and has given very positive reviews of products that are not PMDG - or even available on the MSFS platform. (I.e. XPlane)

And that fact that he makes money from his YouTube stream… so what? It would be pretty stupid of him to put time and effort into making YouTube videos and streams and not monetize them if the opportunity presents itself.

27 minutes ago, JRBarrett said:

Unless TFDI themselves state that there has been some kind of EULA violation, it would be pure speculation on your part to state there has been. Somebody paid for it. It wasn’t stolen. If they chose to give up their copy, so be it.

I have watched much of his content over the past year. You make it sound like it is a constant stream of negativity and criticism and it is not. Some of his critiques of things that don’t work correctly in various products are correct - some perhaps not. I’d give more credibility to someone who is a working airline pilot than someone who has only flown simulated aircraft.

He has as much right to state his opinions- good or bad- as you do. If you don’t agree with what he says, or don’t like his presentation style that’s fine. But to say that he is slandering “other” developers is disingenuous. “Other” than what? He is not a developer. And though he started out mainly featuring PMDG products, he is not a PMDG employee.

I have heard him critique faults in PMDG products too. LNAV behavior, some bugs in the new EFB and others. He has never implied that PMDG is perfect - and has given very positive reviews of products that are not PMDG - or even available on the MSFS platform. (I.e. XPlane)

And that fact that he makes money from his YouTube stream… so what? It would be pretty stupid of him to put time and effort into making YouTube videos and streams and not monetize them if the opportunity presents itself.

Its black and white from the website. People have done the research and TFDI are also aware of what has happened so who knows if anything will happen time will tell I guess. Which every way you look at it, he is using an illegal copy. For a streamer who likes quoting EULA etc to everyone clearly does not abide by the same. Like any other developer near enough same wordings. TFDI did not want it outside of the Discord even though people not in NDA don't have to follow because they are not paid.

Also watch but people have started commenting noticing the same criticism etc really not hard to find. FSS he would not stop with them. I don't know how else I can describe the slandering. I bet if another FSS video came out he would not stop with calling it word not allowed. Not the first time he has been warned from developers regarding the attitude. I think you are missing the point the bias he gives to PMDG compared to others. 

Missing the point again regarding money from Youtube. To be honest maybe I should of expanded. You keep bad mouthing developers will eventually just lead to them not wanting to work with you and if you want to use an illegal copy of one developers product that would be easier for developers just to say you can buy our products from now.

The same EULA he scrolled through on another video criticising the wording etc that TFDI used. TFDI quickly shut him down on it. Extract below from the EULA. Anyway lets carry on about the MD11.

Edited November 12, 20232 yr by carlanthony24

2 hours ago, JRBarrett said:

Why is it perfectly OK for AVSIM users to be extremely negative and critical of released aircraft and developers, but it is “slander” for a professional pilot and YouTuber to say anything even slightly bad about products they review?

Because 99.9% of Avsimmers don't have 38,000 followers and therefore the outsized influence that this YouTuber has on products in our niche hobby.

When you or I pass a judgement on an add-on, at most a few hundred people *might* read it, fewer still may act. Most Avsimmers' main objective is to praise, critique, vent or just outright word not allowed about our personal experience with a product in the knowledge that it is a sort of catharsis for us and rarely anything more.

Given his predominantly negative stance on competitor products to the one he beta tests for, one can genuinely question his need to pass comment on them. Why is he attempting to influence potentially tens of housands of people's purchase decisions when more impartial reviewers already exist?

Edited November 12, 20232 yr by F737MAX

From the looks of this video, it looks like they have quite a long way to go on the main landing gear: (sorry, I don't know how to embed this video here, but the link works)

https://packaged-media.redd.it/zumcblhpwczb1/pb/m2-res_410p.mp4?m=DASHPlaylist.mpd&v=1&e=1699754400&s=503258ec70244c4e9b688ef31bac56920a56ba08#t=0

1 hour ago, F737MAX said:

Because 99.9% of Avsimmers don't have 38,000 followers and therefore the outsized influence that this YouTuber has on products in our niche hobby.

When you or I pass a judgement on an add-on, at most a few hundred people *might* read it, fewer still may act. Most Avsimmers' main objective is to praise, critique, vent or just outright word not allowed about our personal experience with a product in the knowledge that it is a sort of catharsis for us and rarely anything more.

Given his predominantly negative stance on competitor products to the one he beta tests for, one can genuinely question his need to pass comment on them. Why is he attempting to influence potentially tens of housands of people's purchase decisions when more impartial reviewers already exist?

737NG driver/ A330 new driver (what ever he is this day) is an "attention seeker" on Youtube nothing more. Spends more time making videos than actually flying the real aircraft in real life. I don't believe his gibberish one bit.

Edited November 12, 20232 yr by JBDB-MD80

I had  posted  the  question  about  the  gifted purchase of  the  addon  and  his  reply  was  its  perfectly  legal

36 minutes ago, JBDB-MD80 said:

737NG driver/ A330 new driver (what ever he is this day) is an "attention seeker" on Youtube nothing more.

That's not true at all.

I've seen actually attention seekers on youtube.

13 minutes ago, Tuskin38 said:

That's not true at all.

I've seen actually attention seekers on youtube.

Oh really V1, FD2S, Blackbox711 and A320 sim pilot are real world pilots that post videos on and do flightsiming on their spare time none or objective as this guy (they teach not criticize). Not like this dude though LOL one call him out on his Fenix opinion though which he never flew a A320 in the Real World, Get out of here. Near 40,000 subscribers in 3 years in a (Niche) flight sim community sure clickbait.

Edited November 12, 20232 yr by JBDB-MD80

If there isn't much to criticize, there isn't much to criticize.

53 minutes ago, Tuskin38 said:

That's not true at all.

I've seen actually attention seekers on youtube.

He literally posted a video about silly drama from a flight sim news website author who was apparently being banned from the PMDG forums. It was sophomoric and completely pretentious. He will bash other developers while praising PMDG. Whenever I hear that guys voice, I turn the video off. I can't think of another flight sim YouTuber that is more full of themself. 

Edited November 12, 20232 yr by Bdub22

When does this guy have time to do actual real world flying with the real world planes of today ?  He is making so many vids,  Is he a simmer, like many of us, or is he a real world airline pilot for a major airline ?

5 hours ago, JRBarrett said:

I presume you mean 737NG driver. I haven’t watched his MD-11 stream,

Why presume 737NG Driver that you didn't even watch? It was as likley the clickbait, punchable-faced swiss guy using a pic of the MD11 inverted crashing into the ground, arrow pointing at the tail-engine, with the title 'The New MD-11 For MSFS Isn't Perfect LOL' ??

Ok lets not focus on a fake Youtuber and get back on topic. TFDi MD-11

Edited November 12, 20232 yr by JBDB-MD80