December 5, 20232 yr If you tried DX12 in the past, but DX11 still performed better for you, you might give DX12 another chance after you've upgraded to SU14. Until the release of SU14, I always got better performance with DX11. By contrast, DX12 had always introduced stutters and graphics anomalies on my system. With each new Sim Update, I'd always try out DX12 once again to see how things went. I usually reverted immediately to DX11. With SU14, however, many of the previous issues with DX12 appear to have been fixed. I've never seen the sim run as smoothly as it now does. So if, like me, you avoided DX12 in the past, you might consider giving it another chance after you've upgraded to SU14. Processor: Intel i9-13900KF 5.8GHz 24-Core, Graphics Processor: Nvidia RTX 4090 24GB GDDR6, System Memory: 64GB High Performance DDR5 SDRAM 5600MHz, Operating System: Windows 11 Home Edition, Motherboard: Gigabyte Z790 Aorus Elite AX, LGA 1700, CPU Cooling: Corsair H100i Elite 240mm Liquid Cooling, RGB and LCD Display, Chassis Fans: Corsair Low Decibel, Addressable RGB Fans, Power Supply: Corsair HX1000i Fully Modular Ultra-Low-Noise Platinum ATX 1000 Watt, Primary Storage: 2TB Samsung Gen 4 NVMe SSD, Secondary Storage: 1TB Samsung Gen 4 NVMe SSD, VR Headset: Meta Quest 2, Primary Display: SONY 4K Bravia 75-inch, 2nd Display: SONY 4K Bravia 43-inch, 3rd Display: Vizio 28-inch, 1920x1080. Controller: Xbox Controller attached to PC via USB.
December 5, 20232 yr 3 minutes ago, David Mills said: If you tried DX12 in the past, but DX11 still performed better for you, you might give DX12 another chance after you've upgraded to SU14. Until the release of SU14, I always got better performance with DX11. By contrast, DX12 had always introduced stutters and graphics anomalies on my system. With each new Sim Update, I'd always try out DX12 once again to see how things went. I usually reverted immediately to DX11. With SU14, however, many of the previous issues with DX12 appear to have been fixed. I've never seen the sim run as smoothly as it now does. So if, like me, you avoided DX12 in the past, you might consider giving it another chance after you've upgraded to SU14. I would do if the airports didn't vanish with it. It's always been a frustration to me because DX12 has always been smoother on my machine but because the airport ground textures would disappear it's been unusable. Every update the first thing I do is rush to turn on DX12 in the hope they have bothered to fix it and every update they haven't. I will do the same again today....what are the odds, I wonder......quite slim, I fear. 5800X3D - Strix X570-E - 32GB 3600Mhz DDR4 - AMD RX 9070 XT- Samsung 980 Pro x2
December 5, 20232 yr 1 minute ago, Jazz said: I would do if the airports didn't vanish with it. It's always been a frustration to me because DX12 has always been smoother on my machine but because the airport ground textures would disappear it's been unusable. Every update the first thing I do is rush to turn on DX12 in the hope they have bothered to fix it and every update they haven't. I will do the same again today....what are the odds, I wonder......quite slim, I fear. Let us know your results please Luka Makhviladze
December 5, 20232 yr Using VR I've previously avoided DX12 like the plague, as it was mainly a slide show. Occasionally I'd take a look after an update and it gradually improved in terms of performance, then last night I did a bunch of VR Benchmarks in preparation for todays update and was surprised to see how well DX12 performed with S13 as it was the first time I looked with that update, so it'll be interesting to see if there's any difference when I benchmark todays update later. Pico Neo3 Link VR - Windows 11 64bit, Gigabyte Z590 Aorus Elite Mobo, i7-10700KF CPU, Gigabyte RX 9070 XT OC 16gb (AMD GPU), 32gig Corsair 3600mhz RAM, SSD x2 + M.2 SSD 1tb x1 Saitek X45 HOTAS - Saitek Pro Rudder Pedals - Logitech Flight Yoke - Homemade 3 Button & 8-directional Joystick Box, SNES Controller (used as a Button Box - Additional USB Numpad (used as a Button Box)
December 5, 20232 yr Be sure to erase the shaders cache when switching or trying a new development in MSFS regarding DX11/12. Edited December 5, 20232 yr by bvdboomen
December 5, 20232 yr 3 minutes ago, bvdboomen said: Be sure to erase the shaders cache when switching or trying a new development in MSFS regarding DX11/12. Naturally 5800X3D - Strix X570-E - 32GB 3600Mhz DDR4 - AMD RX 9070 XT- Samsung 980 Pro x2
December 5, 20232 yr @bvdboomen I never had to erase / flush any shaders since the launch of MSFS and could not find any informations from Asobo that it should be done when switching DX or getting new drivers or else.... Are there any tehnical reasons that it should be done? Edited December 5, 20232 yr by GEKtheReaper Gerald K. - Germany AMD 7800x3D / ASUS ROG X670E-Gaming / ASUS Strix RTX 3090 OC / 64 Gb RAM GSKILL. "Flightstick" = X56 HOTAS RGB Logitech
December 5, 20232 yr Wasn't there an Nvidia driver update earlier in the year that negated the need to delete shaders? Pico Neo3 Link VR - Windows 11 64bit, Gigabyte Z590 Aorus Elite Mobo, i7-10700KF CPU, Gigabyte RX 9070 XT OC 16gb (AMD GPU), 32gig Corsair 3600mhz RAM, SSD x2 + M.2 SSD 1tb x1 Saitek X45 HOTAS - Saitek Pro Rudder Pedals - Logitech Flight Yoke - Homemade 3 Button & 8-directional Joystick Box, SNES Controller (used as a Button Box - Additional USB Numpad (used as a Button Box)
December 5, 20232 yr 15 minutes ago, MarcG said: Wasn't there an Nvidia driver update earlier in the year that negated the need to delete shaders? Chicken Soup Rule: "It might not help but it certainly won't hurt." -J 13700KF | RTX 4090 @ 1440 | 64GB DDR5 | 2 x 1TB SSDs | 1TB M.2 NVMe
December 5, 20232 yr Indeed, much improved on DX12. Thanks for pointing it out. John Wiesenfeld KPBI | FAA PPL/SEL/IFR in a galaxy long ago and far away | VATSIM PILOT P2 i7-11700K, 32 GB DDR4 3.6 GHz, MSI RTX 3070ti, Dell 4K monitor
December 5, 20232 yr I've been DX12 for a while now with TAA and FG on. Even in 13, I thought DX12 was good. But maybe that's just me. 5800X3D, 4090FE, 64GB DDR4 3600C16, Gigabyte X570S MB, EVO 970 M.2's, Alienware 3821DW and 2 22" monitors, Corsair RM1000x PSU, 360MM MSI MEG, MFG Crosswind, T16000M Stick, Boeing TCA Yoke/Throttle, Skalarki MCDU and FCU, Logitech Radio Panel/Switch Panel, Spad.Next
December 5, 20232 yr Don't wanna get to excited. I Got I7-10700K 32Gb Ram 3600mhz & RTX 2070 Super try DX12 now with TAA option. Gauges look good no blur and haven't noticed that darn flash yet. Don't wanna get my hope's up. But if the flash is cured in TAA I think I will benefit a lot better off of DX12. Happy Landings 2cents Edited December 6, 20232 yr by jwhak
December 5, 20232 yr 1 hour ago, micstatic said: I've been DX12 for a while now with TAA and FG on. Even in 13, I thought DX12 was good. But maybe that's just me. Likewise, Fg is a must.
December 5, 20232 yr 17 minutes ago, jwhak said: Don't wanna get to excited. I Got I7-10700K 32Gb Ram 3600mhz & RTX 2070 Super try DX12 now with TAA option. Gauges look good no blur and haven't noticed that darn flash yet. Don't wanna get my hope's up. But if the flash is cured in TAA I think I will benefit a lot better of of DX12. Happy Landings 2cents That screen flash is caused by having Bloom enabled. I've yet to try the new update so cannot verify but if it happens again and you wish to stay on DX12, simply turn off Bloom under the Graphics setting.
December 5, 20232 yr 12 minutes ago, AviationEnthusiast said: That screen flash is caused by having Bloom enabled. I've yet to try the new update so cannot verify but if it happens again and you wish to stay on DX12, simply turn off Bloom under the Graphics setting. Holy word not allowed Batman... Got Bloom on and still no flash so far in TAA. Like my RTX 2070 Super just ate some spinach popeye style. Thankful for this absolutely spectacular. Happy Landings All
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