After the Hjet's faithful implementation of its namesake, I am interested in what the FlightFX Citation 750 will bring to the table in this regard.

I don't know if they have them in MSFS, but I imagine any Russian plane that does not have English labels on the panel would be almost impossible to fly if the pilot does not speak Russian or read Cyrillic characters.

Only an FSX user, but the F16, you have to keep an eye on so many things

12 minutes ago, Sweetd31 said:

Only an FSX user, but the F16, you have to keep an eye on so many things

Is it the Aerosoft one?

2 hours ago, History said:

1. Simskunkworks TF-104.

Starting up is very easy (even more simple than the FSX version). But once you are entering the landing phase that's when the horror begins. Keep the engine RPM above 83%, 90% is preferred when your fuel is more than 40%. Approaching the runway with 200-225 kts is not uncommon.

2. FlyingIrons BF-109. This time, the horror lies in the takeoff phase.
 

That Flying Iron thing is a fake, not a simulation because the problem with all real Me109 versions was the narrow undercarriage: so many landing accidents, as we can see from the real pilots memories, and the real planes today still flying in Europe and the US.

3 hours ago, History said:

Is it the Aerosoft one?

Yeah, speed and angle of attack is so crucial. Got cocky and tried zero visibility with 8 kt crosswind with no dme. Trying to remember that 350 feet above the air blind is taking some getting used to.

But man its so cool, only been master 5 mi of visibility, with 16 kt cross so far, because you gotta touch those rear wheels down just right! Trusting instruments is so a mind trip in an F16

11 hours ago, bennyboy75 said:

Any aircraft without a lot of automation will always be a handful in the sim - the Fokker F28, BAe 146 and DC6 are good examples. Even the 737 NG has a significantly higher workload than an A320 so if you want an easy life then grab the Fenix!

Man give me a plane that has an approach feature any day of the week. See my post about the F-16 where you hand-fly the glideslope

8 hours ago, History said:

 

2. FlyingIrons BF-109. This time, the horror lies in the takeoff phase.
 

As is - seemingly - with all warbird tail wheelers - except all 3 variants of the spitfire in MSFS - at least in my book

The AH P51 - is a pig to get off the ground - and since I haven't yet succeeded in 15 tries

- I wonder what the landing is like if I ever get it off the ground

As SD-Flyer wrote so aptly, it depends on what kind of complexity you are looking for. Flying without GPS will pose a navigational challenge that you can do in any steam-gauge airplane. You could work your way backwards through the VOR/NDB era from the 50s-90s, radio beacons in the 1930s, or even do celestial navigation with a bubble sextant.

Peter

A320 is rather easy, however...

I thought inibuilds a320n had automated systems like we used to with the A320 series  But this a/c is rather tiring when you consider you have to adjust NaV radio boeing style to make ILS landings possible. ILS data old school style outside sim... 

Then there are these engines, they are like ferrari V8 when ac is empty. Not touching levers thing goes 50kts over the taxiway... without braking action.

I am actually surprised their A320N is more of a toy.. I guess this one is hard to learn and easy all the same. Annoyingly.

The hardest to learn imho, def DC-6. Then the MD-80 could also fit in as a more modern airliner together with BAE 146 systemswise. For me, A300/310/320ceo/737NG are a walk in the park. Except for the old A300/310 rnav app I had some misunderstandings because A320 had a more automated rnav capability whereas the old 300 had a more tiresome approach to rnav with settings MDA from chart and activation of the 3.0/3.5 slope Final from alt hold position then to select Profile for P.DES and having AP auto disconnected beneath the MDA put into FMS for a final visual on vref speed flap full.

Ils is a lot easier considering the effort that you have to put into the planning with the old A300/310🤣

Edited May 27, 20242 yr by Piotr007

For me, Concorde (even if it's just the DC Designs one), the DC-6 and BAe 146.

Maddog is a tad easier for me. Furthermore, I have a harder time setting up the ATRs than the MD-8x.

13 hours ago, jaytee73 said:

As is - seemingly - with all warbird tail wheelers - except all 3 variants of the spitfire in MSFS - at least in my book

The AH P51 - is a pig to get off the ground - and since I haven't yet succeeded in 15 tries

- I wonder what the landing is like if I ever get it off the ground

The Hellcat is pretty easy to take off and land too - probably easier than the Spit imo. I love the Spitfire - I wouldn't say it's easy to take off, but it gets easier once you know how, and it's fairly predictable. Unlike some of the other taildraggers in this sim, where the plane seemingly has a mind of it's own (like the iniBuilds P40, Goose, Bf108, Milviz Corsair, & Fox Speedster to name and shame a few).

Edited May 28, 20242 yr by s0cks

On 5/27/2024 at 1:23 AM, MikeH99 said:

Well in the Fenix you have to turn the packs off 20s before take off and turn them back on 10s apart. It's not that easy for some!

You don't have to do that, but a lot of airlines turn off the packs to save some gas as you can (as I understand it) use a higher flex as the engines aren't having to provide bleed air at the same time as takeoff thrust. 

I never do packs off takeoffs in the sim as it's a big distraction at a busy time (thrust red, accel alt, flap retraction all taking place around the time you need to turn them back on), which is why the non flying pilot would do it. 

Be nice if Fenix implemented a bit of help with stuff like this to acknowledge wanting to do realistic ops but flying single pilot for example

- auto packs turn back on 10 seconds apart after thrust reduction, leaving you free to fly without having to look up

- clean up trigger upon landing, where the clean up items such as flaps, lights, APU, wx radar etc are all done while you can concentrate on the taxi. I believe in the real one stowing the speed brakes is the trigger, maybe this could be implemented if there are certain conditions met, say weight on wheels, flaps set in landing config, speedbrakes deployed and strobes are on . 

How about it @amir 😁

On 5/27/2024 at 5:57 AM, bofhlusr said:

imagine any Russian plane that does not have English labels on the panel would be almost impossible to fly if the pilot does not speak Russian or read Cyrillic characters.

or for starters, how about an artificial horizon that is upside down, how long would you survive in IFR with these 🤣:

 

 

Edited May 28, 20242 yr by turbomax

3 hours ago, turbomax said:

or for starters, how about an artificial horizon that is upside down, how long would you survive in IFR with these 🤣:

Do you know if MSFS is sold in Russia?  Makes me also wonder if Avsim is available there.