13 minutes ago, Michael Moe said:

with a RTX5090

Michael

Right now I'm "carrying" 290 horny brave Danish men from Copenhagen to Bangkok on TG951. That 5090 will probably costs more than a trip to Thailand including all extras. Maybe it's time to reconsider? 😜

Edited July 12, 20241 yr by Vitold69

2 minutes ago, Vitold69 said:

Michael

Right now I'm "currying" 290 horny brave Danish men from Copenhagen to Bangkok on TG951. That 5090 will probably costs more than a trip to Thailand including all extras. Maybe it's time to reconsider? 😜

Indeed sir 🙂 have fun to VTBS ? 

 

Michael Moe

1 hour ago, threexgreen said:

I guess what @Bobsk8 was trying to say before the whole town jumped on him

 

The reason the whole town jumped on him is a reflection of how he interacts with people. When somebody has an issue, he almost always negates the problem.

During my time flying the line and picking up 777s from the factory (about 2 years), I did not encounter such a wide gap between the units.

For sure I notice from time to time on the 747 some gap between the units due to some being CRT or LCD screens. It is common to see this screen swap on the 747 and 777.

I still believe that what we see on this 777 is not right. But it is such a small issue compared to others. 

I think that some people need to realise that nothing in the world is perfect. I worked in aviation for over 40 years, and even working with those exacting standards, there were tolerances. I've seen, and been involved in tasks that sometimes have taken 3 hours, and sometimes the same task has taken 16 hours, because of small tolerances throughout the system.

Edited July 12, 20241 yr by andym001

41 minutes ago, LRBS said:

The reason the whole town jumped on him is a reflection of how he interacts with people. When somebody has an issue, he almost always negates the problem.

During my time flying the line and picking up 777s from the factory (about 2 years), I did not encounter such a wide gap between the units.

For sure I notice from time to time on the 747 some gap between the units due to some being CRT or LCD screens. It is common to see this screen swap on the 747 and 777.

I still believe that what we see on this 777 is not right. But it is such a small issue compared to others. 

I think he's negating the problem because there isn't one. The picture uploaded by the other poster is bad quality, so I just had a look myself. The gap in the PMDG on the FO's side looks pretty much exactly like the one on the Captain's side in the real picture. There many more pictures where you can see gaps as well. There isn't a problem here. PMDG most likely didn't even do this on purpose but it's probably inherited into the 3D-model straight from laser scanning the cockpit of the real aircraft they had access to.

Edited July 12, 20241 yr by threexgreen

1 hour ago, threexgreen said:

I think he's negating the problem because there isn't one. The picture uploaded by the other poster is bad quality, so I just had a look myself. The gap in the PMDG on the FO's side looks pretty much exactly like the one on the Captain's side in the real picture. There many more pictures where you can see gaps as well. The smaller gap on the Captain's side in the PMDG is even wider at the bottom than at the top which you can see on real aircraft as well. There isn't a problem here. PMDG most likely didn't even do this on purpose but it's probably inherited into the 3D-model straight from laser scanning the cockpit of the real aircraft they had access to.

I don't want to argue and arrive at anything unproductive.

 

Looking at only those two pictures, the first one, the CPT side has no gap between the screens (PFD and ND) while the FO side has it. 

On the second picture from the Airliners.net, there is a definitive gap between them, CPT or FO side.

 

Do you see it?

 

Now, I wonder if you also noticed the difference below the MCP panel, there is a placeholder where we keep certain documentation (RVSM chart, a copy of the normal checklist. etc). It's also not to scale.

 

As I mentioned, those are minor details compared to the other issues they have with the 737 and 777.

Is there performance improvement with the update?

4 minutes ago, BWBriscoe said:

Is there performance improvement with the update?

I don’t think there’s any mention of that in the change log. Performance IMO is already excellent. Almost 20 fps more than iniBuilds A300.

3 hours ago, LRBS said:

I don't want to argue and arrive at anything unproductive.

 

Looking at only those two pictures, the first one, the CPT side has no gap between the screens (PFD and ND) while the FO side has it. 

On the second picture from the Airliners.net, there is a definitive gap between them, CPT or FO side.

 

Do you see it?

 

Now, I wonder if you also noticed the difference below the MCP panel, there is a placeholder where we keep certain documentation (RVSM chart, a copy of the normal checklist. etc). It's also not to scale.

 

As I mentioned, those are minor details compared to the other issues they have with the 737 and 777.

Looking at those two pictures, the whole cockpit is not to scale. I noticed something was up with the displays when I first loaded the triple up. I thought they were too small. It’s clear they are. Oh well. It’s still a good airplane. Doesn’t surprise me though. PMDG is slacking these days.

5 hours ago, LRBS said:

I don't want to argue and arrive at anything unproductive.

 

Looking at only those two pictures, the first one, the CPT side has no gap between the screens (PFD and ND) while the FO side has it. 

On the second picture from the Airliners.net, there is a definitive gap between them, CPT or FO side.

 

Do you see it?

 

Now, I wonder if you also noticed the difference below the MCP panel, there is a placeholder where we keep certain documentation (RVSM chart, a copy of the normal checklist. etc). It's also not to scale.

 

As I mentioned, those are minor details compared to the other issues they have with the 737 and 777.

 

1 hour ago, ahsmatt7 said:

Looking at those two pictures, the whole cockpit is not to scale. I noticed something was up with the displays when I first loaded the triple up. I thought they were too small. It’s clear they are. Oh well. It’s still a good airplane. Doesn’t surprise me though. PMDG is slacking these days.

Guys. You do know that those two pictures are taken, one from a real camera and the other from a screen shot and that the screenie is a wider angle than that of the real aircraft shot?  Therefore, things look bigger, larger, wider in the real shot than they will do in the screen shot. Come on, stop trying to find fault where there is none. I also notice a gap on one side of the EICAS which is on a different side in the other image.  Unless an IRL T7 Pilot or engineer pipes up to the contrary @Bobsk8 and @threexgreen are correct. Alignment of avionics panels may be correct on a brand new aircraft but in service these rotable units get swapped out by the airline or service agent and when they do, manufacture, model differences or the technicians  eye may not necessarily align as closely as the OEM on initial delivery.  PMDG's model simply reflects laser imaging taken from a line airframe at one particular time.   

Cheers

Terry   

 

The real picture does not have a clock to the left of the captain's PFD.

FAKE.

1 hour ago, Lord Farringdon said:

 

Guys. You do know that those two pictures are taken, one from a real camera and the other from a screen shot and that the screenie is a wider angle than that of the real aircraft shot?  Therefore, things look bigger, larger, wider in the real shot than they will do in the screen shot. Come on, stop trying to find fault where there is none. I also notice a gap on one side of the EICAS which is on a different side in the other image.  Unless an IRL T7 Pilot or engineer pipes up to the contrary @Bobsk8 and @threexgreen are correct. Alignment of avionics panels may be correct on a brand new aircraft but in service these rotable units get swapped out by the airline or service agent and when they do, manufacture, model differences or the technicians  eye may not necessarily align as closely as the OEM on initial delivery.  PMDG's model simply reflects laser imaging taken from a line airframe at one particular time.   

Cheers

Terry   

 

Unfortunately, you're mistaken if you think there are no issues here. Some of you, without proper knowledge about a product, can't understand that actually bringing up discrepancies/bugs leads to improvement. As a previously qualified pilot in 777, I assure you that you're also mistaken if you believe they don't align perfectly when replacing those screens. I understand that PMDG claims to use any laser imaging, and I will not go there to dispute that statement. However, regardless of laser imaging, there are some visible discrepancies. 

18 minutes ago, LRBS said:

I assure you that you're also mistaken if you believe they don't align perfectly when replacing those screens

With photographic evidence to the contrary (as provided by @threexgreen) your assurances are only valid to you and nothing more.

43 minutes ago, SierraDelta said:

With photographic evidence to the contrary (as provided by @threexgreen) your assurances are only valid to you and nothing more.

There is also photographic evidence with no gap. So now what? LOL It's like counter rotating props in a twin. They either both critical or both not LOL

Where am I looking for this legendary gap in the photos?