November 12, 20241 yr About time too - I desperately need a backup solution to my Google Chrome passwords!
November 12, 20241 yr Moderator 5 hours ago, Krakin said: Haha! It’s not difficult to work out why you’re restricted from posting in the XP forum. Another intelligent response. 🤨 Ray (Cheshire, England). System: P3D v5.3HF2, Intel i9-13900K, MSI 4090 GAMING X TRIO 24G, Crucial T700 4Tb M.2 SSD, Asus ROG Maximus Z790 Hero, 32Gb Corsair Vengeance DDR5 6000Mhz RAM, Win 11 Pro 64-bit, BenQ PD3200U 32” UHD monitor, Fulcrum One yoke, Fulcrum Throttle Quadrant. Cheadle Hulme Weather website.
November 12, 20241 yr Moderator 2 hours ago, UrgentSiesta said: No idea how popular an FSL-grade Concorde might be in MSFS, so perhaps they feel the Airbus is a better source of cash... They launched their company 14 years ago with Concorde so it must have been successful. Of course it won’t sell as many as the Airbus but for those who love the aircraft it’s a must-have. It might also attract the curious who want to fly faster than Mach 0.84. Ray (Cheshire, England). System: P3D v5.3HF2, Intel i9-13900K, MSI 4090 GAMING X TRIO 24G, Crucial T700 4Tb M.2 SSD, Asus ROG Maximus Z790 Hero, 32Gb Corsair Vengeance DDR5 6000Mhz RAM, Win 11 Pro 64-bit, BenQ PD3200U 32” UHD monitor, Fulcrum One yoke, Fulcrum Throttle Quadrant. Cheadle Hulme Weather website.
November 12, 20241 yr 11 minutes ago, Ray Proudfoot said: They launched their company 14 years ago with Concorde so it must have been successful. Of course it won’t sell as many as the Airbus but for those who love the aircraft it’s a must-have. It might also attract the curious who want to fly faster than Mach 0.84. As long as it's the full-fat Concorde where you can control everything, and not the latest dumbed-down version I'd buy it again.
November 12, 20241 yr 2 hours ago, abrams_tank said: Were you living under a rock? Lefteris back in October of 2020 said that FSLabs wouldn't prioritize MSFS and that they would wait for MSFS to become more mature : Which part of that quote don't you understand? Fair enough. I had no idea of that thread or his comments. Thanks for filling me in. Daniel
November 12, 20241 yr Moderator 10 minutes ago, BMIBaby said: As long as it's the full-fat Concorde where you can control everything, and not the latest dumbed-down version I'd buy it again. It’s hardly “dumbed-down” when all the systems work as in the real aircraft. But it is frustrating for those of us who know how to operate the fuel system cannot do so as things stand. Plenty of people have expressed their views on that so hopefully there will be user options as there were with the 32-bit version. Ray (Cheshire, England). System: P3D v5.3HF2, Intel i9-13900K, MSI 4090 GAMING X TRIO 24G, Crucial T700 4Tb M.2 SSD, Asus ROG Maximus Z790 Hero, 32Gb Corsair Vengeance DDR5 6000Mhz RAM, Win 11 Pro 64-bit, BenQ PD3200U 32” UHD monitor, Fulcrum One yoke, Fulcrum Throttle Quadrant. Cheadle Hulme Weather website.
November 12, 20241 yr The only reason I bought Concorde's P3D version was to receive it for free in MSFS. Now, rather than focusing on the one plane that would truly bring something unique to the platform, they seem to have chosen a model that’s already available at the highest standard. Given their development pace, I’ll likely be waiting until the end of MSFS 2024's lifecycle to finally get it. PC1: AMD Ryzen 9800X3D | Zotac RTX 5090 SOLID | Asus TUF X670E-Plus | G.SKILL 64GB DDR5 PC 6000 CL30 | 4TB NVMe | Noctua NH-D15 | Asus TUF 1000W Gold | be quiet! Pure Base 500DX | Noctua NH-D15S | LG OLED CX 48" + 2x Acer Nitro XV240YP 24" + 2x 15.6" Touch-screen Panels PC2: AMD Ryzen 7500F | Asrock 7900 GRE Challenger OC | Gigabyte B650I AX | Corsair 32GB DDR5 6000 CL36 | 1TB NVMe | CM Hyper 212 | Corsair 750W Gold | Lian Li TU150 ITX | SAMSUNG Odyssey G9 49" Winctrl Ursa Minor Sidestick + Ursa Minor 32 Throttle & PAC - Thrustmaster Boeing TCA Yoke - Thrustmaster HOTAS Warthog - Honeycomb Bravo Throttle - MFG Crosswind Rudder Pedals - TrackIR - Stream Deck XL + Stream Deck Plus - Winctrl MCDU + 2 MFD's - Meta Quest 3 (VR)
November 12, 20241 yr 26 minutes ago, Ray Proudfoot said: They launched their company 14 years ago with Concorde so it must have been successful. Of course it won’t sell as many as the Airbus but for those who love the aircraft it’s a must-have. It might also attract the curious who want to fly faster than Mach 0.84. How much decent competition did they have when they made the Airbus for P3D though? Launching into a sim that's about to (or just) become obsolete, where there are multiple "decent" free options and a very high quality payware option doesn't seem like it will end well. With Concorde, whilst it might be more niche, there is much less competition. Not sure they could have picked another Airbus that's likely to sell worse than the 320CEO. G Gary Davies aka "Gazzareth" Simming since 747 on the Acorn Electron
November 12, 20241 yr This seems like commercial suicide to be honest. They are releasing an Airbus months after Fenix have already released theirs, onto a platform which is now transitioning to a newer version. All that R&D wasted. Who would buy it now? Do they have any USP with their version? Not sure there is anything which would get me to slap another £50-£100 on the table for another A32x version. This just seems crazy and way late to the market.
November 12, 20241 yr Well, I still think it has a place in the market if they do things right. I still fly Toliss because I can't stand the Fenix flight model. I know they have made a lot of efforts to improve and hopefully in 2024 they can improve even more but if FSL manages to take the physics and other things out of the simulator like other top developers do I will buy it for sure.
November 12, 20241 yr Moderator 7 minutes ago, Gazzareth said: How much decent competition did they have when they made the Airbus for P3D though? None I would imagine. 7 minutes ago, Gazzareth said: Launching into a sim that's about to (or just) become obsolete, where there are multiple "decent" free options and a very high quality payware option doesn't seem like it will end well. With Concorde, whilst it might be more niche, there is much less competition. It appears 2024 won’t be too different to 2020 so making their aircraft compatible shouldn’t be an issue. The only competition for their Concorde is the Colimata version for XP. Having seen a couple of videos of it it’s still way off the FSL one especially in its flight profile, fuel management and the more complex aspects of its systems. Ray (Cheshire, England). System: P3D v5.3HF2, Intel i9-13900K, MSI 4090 GAMING X TRIO 24G, Crucial T700 4Tb M.2 SSD, Asus ROG Maximus Z790 Hero, 32Gb Corsair Vengeance DDR5 6000Mhz RAM, Win 11 Pro 64-bit, BenQ PD3200U 32” UHD monitor, Fulcrum One yoke, Fulcrum Throttle Quadrant. Cheadle Hulme Weather website.
November 12, 20241 yr After much reflection, I find it odd that Fs Labs would release an A321 CEO now that Fenix already has released the whole family. I make the bet that at mid development, Fs Labs switched to the A321 NEO, but just like Aerosoft with their A330, they are going to release their initial A321 just to salvage a few bucks on this project while they still can. That makes sense and might explain.
November 12, 20241 yr 9 minutes ago, Ray Proudfoot said: It appears 2024 won’t be too different to 2020 so making their aircraft compatible shouldn’t be an issue. ...and with some background information that's exactly the part where I even more put the release for 2020 in question. You can make it run in compatibility mode quite easy BUT its a different topic to make it 2024 native, which means you actually have to tear your model apart and change a lot of things to use the benefits of 2024. Seeing their timeline it would be ready short before msfs 2028 (for which the contractual stuff is already ongoing). Concorde would have been the better choice but in the end with the same problems as they will have to redo it again when they as a newbie msfs 3rd party dev without pre access get hands on the new sdk for 2024. I def would not spend money on a 2020 version assuming I have to wait loooong again for a 2024 version with a very high probability of upgrade fees. Cheers T.
November 12, 20241 yr 18 minutes ago, Ray Proudfoot said: The only competition for their Concorde is the Colimata version for XP. Having seen a couple of videos of it it’s still way off the FSL one especially in its flight profile, fuel management and the more complex aspects of its systems. There is one for MSFS (DC designs), although never heard anyone rave about it. So not sure how good it is.... G Gary Davies aka "Gazzareth" Simming since 747 on the Acorn Electron
November 12, 20241 yr How bad the decision may be to go A321 Ceo for them, 1 thing is true. Due to release of 2024 msfs it is guaranteed this won't be any abandonware for the coming decade😁😂. By time msfs 2034 releases they will surely arrive with the entire A320-family. Guaranteed high fidelity that is for sure🤪 I9 12900K @ 5.1ghz P-cores/ 4.0 ghz E-cores fixed HT off / Corsair iCue H150i Capellix Cooler/ MSI Z690 CARBON WiFi / 32GB Corsair DDR5 RAM @ 5200 mhz XMP on / 12GB MSI 4090 RTX Ventus 3 / 7,5 total TB SSD (2+2+2+1+0,5 all NVMe)/ PSU 850W Corsair / 27" (1080P)
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