9 minutes ago, rick celik said:

There is absolutely no reason for another a320-21. None. We need a good A330 and maybe even a a340-200/300 & 500-600. I understand the 340 isn’t running around much anymore but hey, I see some classics coming in soon… why not for nostalgia sake. 

They really should have gone with A321 Neo with all of variants (LR, ULR and normal). That would have been a lot more appealing to potential customers (loads of options of doing either short haul or long haul) then just other A321 ceo which Fenix has already simulated. 

1 minute ago, CAP1234 said:

They really should have gone with A321 Neo with all of variants (LR, ULR and normal). That would have been a lot more appealing to potential customers (loads of options of doing either short haul or long haul) then just other A321 ceo which Fenix has already simulated. 

Yes but personally I think Fenix has already created a great base for them products and at this point I would rather see Fenix do the Neo line. To me the Fenix is the ultimate experience when it comes to flying, feel, user interface and seamless integration with GSX etc. the texturing is also the most realistic inside and out.

Why does no one ever do an A340?

The only Airbus I've never flown in a flight sim.

Edited November 11, 20241 yr by Tim-HH

19 minutes ago, rick celik said:

Yes but personally I think Fenix has already created a great base for them products and at this point I would rather see Fenix do the Neo line. To me the Fenix is the ultimate experience when it comes to flying, feel, user interface and seamless integration with GSX etc. the texturing is also the most realistic inside and out.

Yeah that would have been great but I don't think Fenix has any plans doing Neo's, this is where Fslabs would have conquered the Neo market if they were smart. 

Especially the complex full fidelity A321 Neo with all of the variants - that would have been absolute grand satisfying both short haul and long haul market. 

Edited November 11, 20241 yr by CAP1234

  I agree with everyone, it feels a little late to the party. So far, I dont see any information about why we should get their version vs. what Fenix is currently offering. There were talks on their forum (from the devs) about unique features that nobody else had implemented, but I guess we will have to wait for the official announcement. Also, as FS2024 is approaching real soon, I don't know if their version will be compatible on day one. I used their P3D version extensively and enjoyed it tremendously, let's see what happens...

John

 

Hey if their version supports time acceleration beyond 2x that’s already a big plus over Fenix. 
 

On the other hand Fenix never tried to infect my PC with malware. So I guess that evens out?

2 hours ago, falcon71 said:

It really shouldn't matter whether you prefer Fenix or FSLabs, this is good news for everyone. FSLabs has always raised the bar. They know that they have competition, so their aircraft will likely be the new No. 1 A321. Now, do you guys believe Fenix will just sit idle and stay the No. 2? Competition has always been good, I think the next few years will be very interesting for us Airbus drivers of any camp.

Agree.

Same with iFly and Asobos 73MAX's compared to PMDG.

iFly also now working on 744, too.

Et al.

 

I'm afraid that the narrative "it's good for everyone" is a bit naive.

Sure. It's nice to have options, but a high-profile release that is unsuccessful has the potential to have consequences. It's good for everyone only if it sells well enough to pay the bills, otherwise, it isn't. 

34 minutes ago, rick celik said:

Yes but personally I think Fenix has already created a great base for them products and at this point I would rather see Fenix do the Neo line. To me the Fenix is the ultimate experience when it comes to flying, feel, user interface and seamless integration with GSX etc. the texturing is also the most realistic inside and out.

I agree - Fenix has produced a fantastic product with a reasonable development cycle, responsive development and excellent communication. FSLabs has never demonstrated any of those except fantastic product.

Their late entry to the market has forfeited their share to a worthy successor. 

No company has a right to exist - sometimes you just gotta go out of business or figure out a new niche in a market like this. The A321 is not a new niche.

They are working on a Concorde for MSFS. The flight model and Virtual Flight Crew integration is second to none. That can’t be far off now.

14 minutes ago, mspencer said:

I agree - Fenix has produced a fantastic product with a reasonable development cycle, responsive development and excellent communication. FSLabs has never demonstrated any of those except fantastic product.

Their late entry to the market has forfeited their share to a worthy successor. 

No company has a right to exist - sometimes you just gotta go out of business or figure out a new niche in a market like this. The A321 is not a new niche.

To be honest A321 neo market is there - I don't think Fenix has any plans in doing neo's, So this where Fslabs would have gained a good start with MSFS. Fslabs back in (2022 or 2023 can't remember) did confirm that they were working on neo's.

Edited November 11, 20241 yr by CAP1234

15 minutes ago, CAP1234 said:

To be honest A321 neo market is there

Considering that IniBuilds have one as Default in MSFS24 I doubt it.

With the greatest respect to INI, I don't think you can compare the two if FSL had entered with a 321N. Especially given the INI is developed as a default level aircraft.

Edited November 11, 20241 yr by John_Tavendale

I don't know why they didn't just focus on bringing Concorde to MSFS. Although it is a niche aircraft, it'd probably fare better than yet another Airbus narrowbody.

19 minutes ago, Ray Proudfoot said:

They are working on a Concorde for MSFS. The flight model and Virtual Flight Crew integration is second to none. That can’t be far off now.

They teased it since the P3D V5 release and honestly it should have been the first off the line. Imagine that was the announcement today and tomorrow the usual streamers were hitting Mach 2 on VATSIM. Release day sales would have paid back development costs and even added padding for the other projects. Concorde and A330 would have been a slam dunk for FSLabs in the MSFS era.