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MSFS2020 entering final approach

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15 hours ago, chapstick said:

I think the people posting about making their last flight in MSFS 2020 have never been through one of these transition periods before. Trust me, you'll want to keep MSFS 2020 installed with all your add-ons for at least a few months. 

Try at least a year. Theres no way 24 will be mature with the same amount of addons as we have in 2020. 

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  • Don't agree. For me, at least for the next few months will still be my simulator of choice. I'll be closely following the release of MSFS 2024, but will wait until it's "usable" and its "teething peri

  • I think the people posting about making their last flight in MSFS 2020 have never been through one of these transition periods before. Trust me, you'll want to keep MSFS 2020 installed with all your a

  • I’m just waiting until Nov 20th when the forums will be flooded with posts about new release issues and old bugs that still haven’t been fixed in time for MSFS2024. Don’t get me wrong, I’m lookin

Nah. Absolutely going to uninstall MSFS 2020 the night before MSFS 2024 releases. My last flight is already planned and it's going to be a nice, relaxing Haneda to Fukuoka hop on the Fenix A320 with Starflyer livery, just to leave with one of my favorite routes. 

Exactly because I have been through ALL the transition periods before, I am perfectly used to tolerating the idiosyncrasies of a new simulator and even in part enjoy them. It never bothered me before, and it won't now. 

There's nothing in MSFS 2020 that makes me think "This outweighs what MSFS 2024 offers so much that I'm willing to downgrade." 

There are tens of new aircraft to try and tons of new features to enjoy. I don't expect to run out of things to do any time soon. 

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I am planning on getting 2024 soon after it is released, but keeping and using 2020 for quite a while. This way I can tinker with 2024 to get it running like I want it to without losing the ability to still fly my stable 2020. Even after I have 2024 like I want it, I'm sure there will be things about 2020 that I'll want to use that may not be available or working in 2024. Plus, having 2020  still working will be a nice fallback when we get an update to 2024 that breaks it for a while. I don't have a "final flight" planned out for 2020 yet. That is too far into the future.

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I'll still be using both depending on what planes work or of decent quality.

4 hours ago, Abriael said:

Nah. Absolutely going to uninstall MSFS 2020 the night before MSFS 2024 releases. My last flight is already planned and it's going to be a nice, relaxing Haneda to Fukuoka hop on the Fenix A320 with Starflyer livery, just to leave with one of my favorite routes. 

Exactly because I have been through ALL the transition periods before, I am perfectly used to tolerating the idiosyncrasies of a new simulator and even in part enjoy them. It never bothered me before, and it won't now. 

There's nothing in MSFS 2020 that makes me think "This outweighs what MSFS 2024 offers so much that I'm willing to downgrade." 

There are tens of new aircraft to try and tons of new features to enjoy. I don't expect to run out of things to do any time soon. 

Good luck! 

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I am also planning  to keep MSFS2020,  just to be able to use some of the 3rd party aircraft if there's issues, and any sim stopping issues cropping up after release. in 2024. In 2024 i plan to try the various default aircraft just to get an understanding of the state and capabilities of each one.

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7 hours ago, UAL4life said:

Try at least a year. Theres no way 24 will be mature with the same amount of addons as we have in 2020. 

How do you come to that conclusion after statements from MS and add-on developers?

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I’m one of the more serious simmers that never actually bought MSFS2020 and have used Games Pass for access. 
 

Does anyone know if MSFS2020 will be taken off of games pass in this transition period? 

 

2 hours ago, MrBitstFlyer said:

How do you come to that conclusion after statements from MS and add-on developers?

To name just a couple of renowned developers:

Parallel42 just came out with this announcement: https://parallel42.com/blogs/news/2024-testing-has-begun-more-info-soon

Nikko, from FlightFX came out with this statement a day or two ago:

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There’s gonna be a huge amount of customer education going on [emphasis mine]
For instance, most people don’t understand that there will be three aircraft floating around.

The first one will be a 2020 aircraft. An aircraft built in 2020 that performs as expected or as needed in 2020. 

The second will be a 2020 aircraft that is ported for 24. This is obviously an aircraft that is designed in 2020 and has some minimal fixes to work in 24.

Third you have an aircraft that is built in 24 that is to be used in 24. There is a massive workflow shift for how 24 aircraft are designed. It is not the same workflow whatsoever for 2020 aircraft. One of the things that you’re gonna start to hear around is something called modularity. Additionally, you have careers and other sort of modes That exist in this new Sim. 2020 aircraft cannot be used for those without massive changes to their infrastructure.

This is gonna be the biggest source of customer education that we’re gonna have to do. So when we come and say an aircraft is going to be available for 2020 and 2024 in essence, they’re fundamentally different aircraft. 

These are the kind of things that the entire community is dealing with right now. And it’s why people don’t want to make promises. Because we’re still trying to work through the workflow.

And iniBuilds announced a similarly-complex structure to their add-on releases and compatibility with MSFS2024 as well.

The developer forums are full of bug reports, and concerns from the developer community who are only just gaining access to, and an initial understanding of, this new sim at a very very late stage. This means that the add-ons we've come to love in 2020 are going to take a while to come to us in the new simulator, and I expect we'll all have to pay for a lot more than we first thought when 2024 was announced.
 

I feel two opposing statements are true:

"virtually all add ons will work." I believe this. Scenery, and a lot of planes will work.

However, a whole lotta the stuff folks like us use are in the low overall percentage of what is going to have issues.

99 planes may work fine, but if 1 airplane doesn't work, and that's the one we use 100% if the airplanes won't work. 🙂

11 hours ago, UAL4life said:

Try at least a year. Theres no way 24 will be mature with the same amount of addons as we have in 2020. 

Complete nonsense!

For 2020 it evolved rapidly and was certainly very usable in less than 12 months!

I expect nothing different. Developers seem to always early release products wanting revenue it seems and then finish off the product.

There is no way anyone should put a time frame on it, none of us know the answer!

It is definitely not going to be end of msfs 2020 yet - For me at least, I'll keep both version until such time that all of available addons that I currently own are available in new sim. This could potentially take months so yeah MSFS 2020 isn't going anywhere. 

What I wonder about is how can planes be ready to go w/ changes when flight dynamics have been changed.  Won't they all need to be tuned accordingly?

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7 hours ago, RobJC said:

Good luck! 

Don't need any. 

As I said, I'm well used to the idiosyncrasies of new simulators, and they don't bother me one bit.

I suppose some people here haven't lived through the time in which we got a new iteration of Microsoft Flight Simulator every 2 years. 😏

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