10 minutes ago, Noel said:

What I wonder about is how can planes be ready to go w/ changes when flight dynamics have been changed.  Won't they all need to be tuned accordingly?

AFAIK, the new features/improvements in flight dynamics and ground handling in 20204 are "additive", i.e. not breaking changes, and aircraft devs need to update their aircraft to take advantage... so the aircraft that have current flight models will still work as is (and that makes sense since some of the 2020 aircraft have highly hand-tuned FMs which MS/Asobo don't want to break). Now there maybe a few "global" flight dynamics changes in 2024 that would apply automatically to 2020 aircraft, but I doubt there are any to begin with, and if there are those are bound to be minor.
 

Edited November 13, 20241 yr by lwt1971

the devsupport forums are public fyi so anyone can see what bugs devs are reporting in the 2024 Dev Alpha. 

4 hours ago, Abriael said:

Don't need any. 

As I said, I'm well used to the idiosyncrasies of new simulators, and they don't bother me one bit.

I suppose some people here haven't lived through the time in which we got a new iteration of Microsoft Flight Simulator every 2 years. 😏

Yes, every two years we had a new sim!

I respect those people who decide to keep MS2020 running until addons catch up.  My preference is to delete 2020 and experience all the new features of 2024 until addons catch up.  Neither view is right or wrong, but those who seem to think many of us haven't lived through flight simulator transitions are very wrong.  😁

My plan is to watch all the youtube stuff and then fly same places in MSFS 2020, firstly i might discover new places i've never flown in and also to really see how much has changed.

There has already been a lot of 'OMG MSFS 2024 IS A GAME CHANGER BEST THING EVA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!11111' stuff and so far i just don't buy it.

MSFS 2020 changed the game, 2024 is all a bit 'meh' to me so far. I'm hoping MSFS 2020 will get an update on the dry scorched areas of the UK map which ruined it in the UK, or worst thing will be if it carried over into MSFS 24.

But yes should be fun watching the drop on 19th for both the good and the bad safe ion the knowledge i pretty much already have the game anyway as people try to convince me i'm missing out... 

35 minutes ago, flightyjoe said:

MSFS 2020 changed the game,

They've been using the same tag line since the last century.

AS REAL AS IT GETS. Is it finally retired now? 

Im staying with MSFS2020 for at least 6 months maybe more,ill wait until all of the issues,problems with the initial release have been ironed out,not to mention all the addons will they work will they not,so im more than happy for all you test pigs to do the work,good luck lol.

Matt from working title has answered some questions about the charts

https://forums.flightsimulator.com/t/microsofts-intent-for-using-lido-chart-system/663485/64?u=tuskin38

he also confirmed that there is FAA chart coverage in the USA

FWIW, I'm not even close to retiring MSFS2020, I'm more than happy with my current setup and no need to change. I'm looking at it from a smartphone perspective, if its working ok, no need to change it 😆

Jorg said in I think it was the first 2024 1st party aircraft stream, that some 2024 aircraft might be back ported to 2020, so those staying behind for a bit might get something out of it

Edited November 14, 20241 yr by Tuskin38

Lots to do tomorrow and Monday but Tuesday and Wednesday are cleared for takeoff!

  Last flight in MSFS 2020; so it's goodbye from me and goodbye from him✌️

 

 

Well i will be an interested observer of the 2024 release.  My expectation is that it will be a dumpster fire as that is just the way these things go - but very happy to be proved wrong.  So I will wait until the dust settles and I get my new CPU/MB upgrade - probably 9800X3D based but may wait for the 16 core X3D part depending on reviews.  Good luck to all the early adopters.

Bruce

Edited November 16, 20241 yr by brucewtb

I spent enough time in the tech alpha that I will be jumping right into 2024.  The lighting, tessellation, AI generated verticals, and 3d generated ground objects (to name a few) sold me as a GA/bush pilot.  I've reinstalled 2020 and kept it slim (~150GB) by not including the world/city updates, and will keep it active primarily for dev work (building 2020 packages) or if the cr*p hits the fan in the 2024 release (instability, ctds, streaming lag, etc).

Edited November 16, 20241 yr by flyndive

2024 is getting slammed by crosswinds and wind shear. It's looking a bit dicey.

The marketplace has been officially delayed and won't be available on release. Certain preorders won't be arriving on time as well. And no guarantees from some Devs as to when we will get fully supported add-ons.

Hold on passengers.

Meh none of that effects me, I'll be too busy trying/testing all of the new default stuff.

Edit: Well, lack of a proper pushback utility will be annoying

Edited November 17, 20241 yr by Tuskin38

2 hours ago, Greazer said:

2024 is getting slammed by crosswinds and wind shear. It's looking a bit dicey.

This doesn't mean what you think it means. 

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The marketplace has been officially delayed and won't be available on release. Certain preorders won't be arriving on time as well. And no guarantees from some Devs as to when we will get fully supported add-ons.

In the grand scheme of things, this is called a "light 3 kts headwind." In a few days, MSFS 2024 will inevitably have a 90+ on Metacritic exactly like MSFS 2020, and 99.9% of its many, many users will be happily enjoying it in the face of the 1% of chronic malcontents who will be steaming because they were prepared to hate it since June 11, 2023, and everyone else isn't as angry at irrelevant nitpicks as they are. 

In 4 years, the same chronic but completely powerless malcontents will engage in ludicrous historical revisionism saying that "MSFS 2024 was bad at launch" exactly as they do now with MSFS 2020 😂

Edited November 17, 20241 yr by Abriael