4 minutes ago, Georgleboui said:

How dare people use the sim in a way that I don’t. 🙄

Yeah there’s a good reason why it’s an unpopular opinion.

Yeah and this is why I still play Pacman back in the 80's but leave flight sim alone now. Fun back in the day but more serious simmer now. You good with it so be it.

Edited March 30, 20251 yr by JBDB-MD80

1 minute ago, JBDB-MD80 said:

Yeah and this is why I still play Pacman back in the 80's but leave flight sim alone now. Fun back in the day but more serious simmer now. You good with it so be it.

It's genuinely an interesting debate that sort of appeared in recent months – I think spurned by the new wave of long-haulers in MSFS and all that strange chat against using sim rate in career mode. 

Personally surprised how many people came out as vehemently anti-time acceleration when it's been part of every single sim going back to the 90s. Like as ubiquitous of a feature now as having real weather. Or day/night cycle. 

Anyway, not to derail the thread, but I reckon there's an interesting discussion to be had - one without a conclusion as usual but interesting anyway.

thinking of getting this one - will the FTsim sound work on MSFS 2024? (have read some people seem to get it working)

On 3/31/2025 at 12:17 AM, Georgleboui said:

How dare people use the sim in a way that I don’t. 🙄

Yeah there’s a good reason why it’s an unpopular opinion.

Fine, but how can you pretend it's realistic? You are flying a MD-80 at the speed of a SR-71. That's like a gigantic flaw in the flight model. Cheating by spawning at the runway or doing Ctrl+E is not worse imho.

1 hour ago, mac44 said:

thinking of getting this one - will the FTsim sound work on MSFS 2024? (have read some people seem to get it working)

I've read that it doesn't, FTSim may publish an update for it. I haven't personally tried. I'm also keeping a lookout for the immersive audio soundpack

 

19 minutes ago, fsiscool said:

Fine, but how can you pretend it's realistic? You are flying a MD-80 at the speed of a SR-71. That's like a gigantic flaw in the flight model. Cheating by spawning at the runway or doing Ctrl+E is not worse imho.

Time acceleration is not speeding up the aircraft, it's literally speeding up time itself, nothing to do with the flight model. Cheating by spawning at the runway? There's no rulebook here on how to sim, get over yourself.

I really do wonder why anyone would care how anyone else decides to sim. You're pretending just as much as the other person is. If you're both having fun then why does it matter how they have fun?

50 minutes ago, Lucky38i said:

Time acceleration is not speeding up the aircraft, it's literally speeding up time itself, nothing to do with the flight model.

It is essentially the same. Covering 4000 miles with 1000 miles/hour (the hour being 4 times shorter) is essentially the same as covering 4000 miles with 4000 miles/hour.

No worries, everybody shall do what makes him happy. I would not want to criticise using time acceleration. The double standard I see, is when somebody is critical because something in the sim or an addon is not 100% perfect but then he is flying with time acceleration himself 😉

When this goes on sale i am getting it. A bit pricey atm. Looks really good though. 

It is so very different and old school compared to what I usually fly, that I am very glad I got it. I too am looking forward to the visual and sound update… no info on that atm….

If i buy the base package do i get the variant add-on for free?

No, it is a separate purchase 

4 hours ago, fsiscool said:

It is essentially the same. Covering 4000 miles with 1000 miles/hour (the hour being 4 times shorter) is essentially the same as covering 4000 miles with 4000 miles/hour.

No worries, everybody shall do what makes him happy. I would not want to criticise using time acceleration. The double standard I see, is when somebody is critical because something in the sim or an addon is not 100% perfect but then he is flying with time acceleration himself 😉

It’s more realistic than people leaving their flight sim to go sleep, work or whatever. 

When I wanted to learn celestial nav I did an 8 hour transpacific flight in the DC-6 in about three hours. But during that time I practiced shooting fixes, did position reports with ATC, managed fuel and oil. All the stuff you’re supposed to do as a pilot.

But I suppose it would have been more realistic if I just left the sim running and went to the shops.

16 hours ago, fsiscool said:

The double standard I see, is when somebody is critical because something in the sim or an addon is not 100% perfect but then he is flying with time acceleration himself

Because it was pretty standard in FSX and P3D.

More or less, it’s a matter of habits in the game. Always used the pause to study new aircraft, always with historical weather, always acceleration on long hauls in cruise - to observe how the landscape changed, monitor temperature, and see how fuel burned, etc -this is what interests me. Polar route KJFK-VHHH with the PMDG 777 — I would never have done it without acceleration. And there were no problems with it at all.
Now Asobo decide that I don't need playing with time (pause, history, acceleration)— I disagree.
When reasoning about realism, I don’t quite understand: the sim doesn’t simulate real weather consequences, real ATC, traffic and lots of other things — the customer should decide what’s important to them and increase the difficulty using addons. And it still remains a game because you can fly completely incorrectly on the most complex addons without any consequences. (Just look at most YouTube videos of MD-82 flights). 
I consider the simulator is a game with a lot of individual compromises.

just got it and installing the msfs 2024 version - but the installer is trying to install the plane into a folder called communitynextboot\community is this correct or should I just point it to the msfs 2024 community folder?

 

On 4/2/2025 at 10:59 AM, taiyang said:

When reasoning about realism, I don’t quite understand: the sim doesn’t simulate real weather consequences, real ATC, traffic and lots of other things — the customer should decide what’s important to them and increase the difficulty using addons. And it still remains a game because you can fly completely incorrectly on the most complex addons without any consequences. (Just look at most YouTube videos of MD-82 flights). 
I consider the simulator is a game with a lot of individual compromises.

I don't think you would actually make any kind of progress convincing these people of this. According to them, their way of simming is the only to do so and anyone else not abiding by their way of doing things is some kind of sin. It's honestly laughably ridiculous. Not to mention the picking and choosing for what is and isn't realistic.

Edited April 3, 20251 yr by Lucky38i

53 minutes ago, Lucky38i said:

I don't think you would actually make any kind of progress convincing these people of this.

You have conviced me 😉