5 minutes ago, ha5mvo said:

Add on top of that the service based failures that’s done to an unprecedented level, the gsx integration

Fenix has those as well

4 minutes ago, Farlis said:

The Fenix has both. I'm confused.

Check the level of those features in detail and it will get you unconfused.

1 minute ago, Tuskin38 said:

Fenix has those as well

Since when? They have random failures, which is a completely different thing.

6 minutes ago, MaximumN2 said:

Since when? They have random failures, which is a completely different thing.

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Failure Rate:

Realistic or High?

Would you like a realistic failure rate using the data, or would you prefer an expedited version where things have a higher probability of happening because reality is boring?

 

5 minutes ago, MaximumN2 said:

Since when? They have random failures, which is a completely different thing.

Enlighten us.

This is what the Fenix has:

"The aircraft features Mean-Time-Between-Failures modelling, meaning engineering data is used to determine rough failure rates and apply that probability to your flight."

 

Just now, F737MAX said:

 

And? These are not service-based failures.

45 minutes ago, flyingscampi said:

Oh, what have you found?

Its what I've seen on streams. Biggest one to date is the holding it just resorts to heading after some time. Remember when a load of people were saying that Fenix kept hugging the lower speed bracket funny enough FSLabs does the same thing.

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4 minutes ago, MaximumN2 said:

And? These are not service-based failures.

Read @Farlis response to you one post above yours.

Sounds 'service-based' to most people unless you're being pedantic.

7 minutes ago, MaximumN2 said:

And? These are not service-based failures.

Yes they are. Quick google shows. Its PMDG but same thing Service based failures are failures that take place as the airplane is being operated in service, just as the real world. This is based on the hours that you operate the airplane. Random failures are failures that occur randomly when you actually set them.

Meh, wake me when the NEO comes out. 

3 hours ago, Speedbird 217 said:

Just saw this posted on Reddit. That bodes well - so each time there’s an AIRAC update it renders the FSL unusable?! Thanks but no thanks.

 

 

Utterly nonsense something else going on tested with every Airac update...

1 minute ago, carlanthony24 said:

Yes they are. Quick google shows. Its PMDG but same thing Service based failures are failures that take place as the airplane is being operated in service, just as the real world. This is based on the hours that you operate the airplane. Random failures are failures that occur randomly when you actually set them.

No, the service-based failures on the PMDG work because PMDG tracks the hours flown per registration. Fenix does not do this, but this is a must for this feature.

 

1 minute ago, MaximumN2 said:

No, the service-based failures on the PMDG work because PMDG tracks the hours flown per registration. Fenix does not do this, but this is a must for this feature.

Yes it does.

"engineering data is used to determine rough failure rates and apply that probability to your flight."

is exactly what service based failures are.

16 minutes ago, Farlis said:

 

Yes it does.

"engineering data is used to determine rough failure rates and apply that probability to your flight."

is exactly what service based failures are.

 

Fenix already stated that their system takes a different approach, as they find service-based failures (PMDG/FSLabs way) unrealistic.

Such a pointless discussion.

3 minutes ago, MaximumN2 said:

Fenix already stated that their system takes a different approach, as they find service-based failures (PMDG/FSLabs way) unrealistic.

They are indeed. If you don't speed up the process you will never see anything go wrong in your lifetime, because no one flies a single livery, let alone sims as many flights as you do in real life with one aircraft.