5 hours ago, mfahey said:

If a nutshell "when critics go silent, groups get stupid".

Criticism by some of MSFS 2024 is not only justified, but should be encouraged (assuming their argument holds merit) to ensure the long term viability of our flight simulation hobby!

This isn't Microsoft.  People are just "preaching to the choir" here.  

It isn't a matter of if you should be critical (you should) but where and how.  

Bring grumpy with your fellow simmers has zero value as far as feedback.  

All I ask is that people remember what this site is, and what it isn't.  You're talking to your fellow simmers, not Asobo/MS.  I doubt a giant corporation pays much attention to what goes on here.

Edited December 26, 20241 yr by kerosene31

1 hour ago, MrBitstFlyer said:

The problem here is the same suspects seem to have the most issues with 2024. Also, often the post is of the type 'I have X bug, therefore 2024 is rubbish and it's developers don't care and are just money grabbers'.

It is sometimes very difficult to remain partial and understanding with a constant barrage of the toys being thrown out the pram.

 

And the "other" half of the problem is the usual suspects who can't ignore said comments and have anointed themselves the self proclaimed defenders of the 2024 realm and are in every thread within a matter of minutes tellign people how they are wrong and the "majority" of users are happy so they, their system or their expectations were the "real" problem...   

Then you throw in the backhanded insults and dismissal of other people's opinion and I present to you Drumroll please....... The Avsim forums...

But when 1 person makes a comment and it is followed by 30 other posts "correcting" them then both sides become equal contributors to the issue.   It takes two to tango and if people would just ignore the posts they would go away.  For every post I respond to there are probably 20 I've just ignored LOL...

Not every post "needs" a response...

 

@kerosene31 this is a flightsim site and always has been a place to discuss both the positive and negative aspects of the hobby.   For me it's not so much what people say it's how they say it.  I always try to sit back and look at the tone and wording of my comments and if I wouldn't say it to a co-worker or a customer at a conference room table I try to refrain from saying it here.  But people have every right to come here and complain, it's like the water cooler, you never know what conversation you are going to walk into and sometimes you choose to 180 and walk back out of the room when you figure out what they are discussing LOL... 

Edited December 26, 20241 yr by psolk

3 hours ago, RobJC said:

You know, like telling us all that the tech alpha was not representative of the final build, when in fact it was.

The tech alpha was different. For example ground textures were not representative and terrain relief was not in the alpha.

As I've said before, we all appear to be seeing similar things and reacting at a different level.  For me there was never a doubt there would be big problems at release because there always are. 

The difference is then going further into stating things like they knew, tried to fool us, don't care or should be sacked. With four years of excellent simming with 2020, I am more than happy to give time for things to be sorted - it's exciting to see things improve!

Much prefer what we have in 2024 now, rather than wait another year for this fictitious perfect sim.

13 hours ago, Bert Pieke said:

You need both the asobo and bsq files.

Asobo files from 2020 over into 2024?  Can they merely be copied?

37 minutes ago, fppilot said:

Asobo files from 2020 over into 2024?  Can they merely be copied?

Copy the asobo aircraft folder, yes.  This has worked for all the planes I have tried thus far.

6 hours ago, MarcG said:

hate

….and there’s that word again….

3 hours ago, MrBitstFlyer said:

The tech alpha was different. For example ground textures were not representative and terrain relief was not in the alpha.

He’s not giving that one up. I gave him a looooong list of the things that weren’t in the tech alpha but he has to stick with his position. It’s not as if he can be taken seriously thought. I mean, he didn’t even try the tech alpha.

9 hours ago, Bert Pieke said:

Copy the asobo aircraft folder, yes.  This has worked for all the planes I have tried thus far.

Did that. Experienced the 97% loading glitch (freeze up requiring Task Mgr exit)  I have a custom install location for MSFS 2024 and that may be contributing.  Due to that I have two Official folders.  One on my primary drive in a folder well under Appdata, Packages, etc.  The other on a separate preferred drive.  Tried at times copying both the Asobo Baron and Bonanza over. Twice to each folder location mentioned.  Sim stalls at 97% where the indication is "loading world updates" or such.

I have fallen back to just the BkSq Duke and the FlightFX Hjet in MSFS 2024.  Spent two and one-half days in attempts to overcome the reported  malady. The analog versions call to me based on my previous flying experience.  But I have not logged any productive hours in two + weeks as I labored to get a working TDS GTN and in a small handful of addon aircraft 

Nuf said, nuf tried. Highly disappointed.  It should not be this difficult. 

Hjet and Turbine Duke with active sky? Great flying MSFS 2024. Blacksquare Bonanza and Baron.  You may need help

 

On 12/26/2024 at 11:03 AM, MarcG said:

#WordOfTheMonth

Only ever used by those who are #WordOfTheMonth by themselves.

22 hours ago, psolk said:

...usual suspects who can't ignore said comments and have anointed themselves the self proclaimed defenders of the 2024 realm and are in every thread within a matter of minutes tellign people

Put in attackers for defenders and you are much closer to the truth. The negative hyperbole is such that those who don't even have MSFS 2024 are incited so much that they participate and take side in these threads as if they had a clue.

On 12/26/2024 at 3:10 PM, Bobsk8 said:

Doesn't get any better than that.

Since when do you prefer VHS over modern video technology?

12 hours ago, fppilot said:

Did that. Experienced the 97% loading glitch (freeze up requiring Task Mgr exit)  I have a custom install location for MSFS 2024 and that may be contributing.  Due to that I have two Official folders.  One on my primary drive in a folder well under Appdata, Packages, etc.  The other on a separate preferred drive.  Tried at times copying both the Asobo Baron and Bonanza over. Twice to each folder location mentioned.  Sim stalls at 97% where the indication is "loading world updates" or such.

I have fallen back to just the BkSq Duke and the FlightFX Hjet in MSFS 2024.  Spent two and one-half days in attempts to overcome the reported  malady. The analog versions call to me based on my previous flying experience.  But I have not logged any productive hours in two + weeks as I labored to get a working TDS GTN and in a small handful of addon aircraft 

Nuf said, nuf tried. Highly disappointed.  It should not be this difficult. 

Hjet and Turbine Duke with active sky? Great flying MSFS 2024. Blacksquare Bonanza and Baron.  You may need help

 

Is the Flight FX Hjet compatible with MSFS2024?  I didn’t think it was.

My 5 reasons in no particular order:

1. Super-fast install. No tedious, time-sucking downloads
2. Since Nov 20 no issues starting the sim. No "low bandwith message"
3. Much improved overall atmosphere, clouds, general feel of flight
4. Smooth performance, 0 stutters
5. Fps comparable, and frequently higher than compared to MSFS 2020

Bonus reason:

New avionics (Honeywell apex suite) to play with. 

Bonus reason #2:

The modding community is already coming through with bringing all our favorites back to MSFS 2024 (no handlebar mod, pushback mod, Gatwick airport, a mod to remove the opening cinematics, etc. 

Edited December 27, 20241 yr by Ricardo41

3 hours ago, TomCYYZ said:

Is the Flight FX Hjet compatible with MSFS2024?  I didn’t think it was.

I am flying it routinely in MSFS 2024.  Understand my Hjet installation is a purchase from Orbx and is not then locked down. Models purchased through the MSFS Marketplace are in my understanding locked down.

I use the valuable Addons Linker application, which now installs two Addons Linker versions.  One for use with MSFS 2020, the other for use with MSFS 2024.  I long ago set up all of my addons into one common set of organized folders.  Addon Aircraft, Addon Sceneries, Addon Avionics, etc. I am able to use that one common set of structured folders with both simulations, 2020 and 2024.  Addons Linker, when asked to, places a pointer, or symbolic link to chosen addons into the respective 2020 and/or 2024 Community folders..   So I am accessing and using that one Hjet installation with both simulations.  It is not changed.  It is Hjet v2.1.2.

I do not know how MSFS 2024 uses addons sourced from the Marketplace.

3 hours ago, fppilot said:

I am flying it routinely in MSFS 2024.  Understand my Hjet installation is a purchase from Orbx and is not then locked down. Models purchased through the MSFS Marketplace are in my understanding locked down.

I use the valuable Addons Linker application, which now installs two Addons Linker versions.  One for use with MSFS 2020, the other for use with MSFS 2024.  I long ago set up all of my addons into one common set of organized folders.  Addon Aircraft, Addon Sceneries, Addon Avionics, etc. I am able to use that one common set of structured folders with both simulations, 2020 and 2024.  Addons Linker, when asked to, places a pointer, or symbolic link to chosen addons into the respective 2020 and/or 2024 Community folders..   So I am accessing and using that one Hjet installation with both simulations.  It is not changed.  It is Hjet v2.1.2.

I do not know how MSFS 2024 uses addons sourced from the Marketplace.

That is good news as I too have purchased the H-Jet through ORBX and do have the 2 Addons Linker versions for both MSFS2020 & MSFS2024. Addons Linker is the most useful addon for both versions IMHO.

Edited December 28, 20241 yr by TomCYYZ