January 12, 20251 yr If anything Fenix can also improve Fenix GSX integration. I don't really see much more both companies can do. Fenix allows you to get push back tug via the beacon but really you don't turn the beacon on till you have start clearance but if you are flying on Vatsim for instance controllers don't want you spending for ever waiting for it to attach they could do it the FSLabs via the ACP. I like the way FSLabs do the stand allocation via the airline packs but even then I have not seen an option to sync with Vatsim gate assignment. E.G Flying into Manchester with BA it gave me the airline stand but didn't give me the stand that Vatsim had assigned so manually switched it.
January 12, 20251 yr 1 hour ago, MarkW said: Why can others just make it work as well as Fenix? JustFlight, Leonardo and FlyByWire do. i guess it just depends on customer demand vs dev time. It took me a week or two to implement on the FBW and when we announced it there wasn’t a huge amount of reception to my surprise. I get a few support questions here and there but not nearly as much as I expected. I think a lot of people don’t use GSX fully but mostly as a pushback tool. Or even more so, there’s a lot less GSX owners than we assume. just my 2 pence
January 12, 20251 yr 1 hour ago, carlanthony24 said: Its not done from the tablet. Its all done through the MCDU and click spots. Personally would like it all in the EFB like P3D days. edit already stated before you can do it thru efb. Edited January 12, 20251 yr by pete_auau I7-8700k,Corsair h1101 cooler ,Asus Strix Gaming Intel Z370 S11 motherboard, Corsair 32gb ramDD4,, gtx 1080ti Card, RM850 power supply Peter kelberg
January 12, 20251 yr sadly, i like it gsx pro very much. even cooler in msfs 2024 when you can walkarround and see everything very closeup while it happens:-) Edited January 12, 20251 yr by 331BK C. W. ,Ryzen 9 5950X @H2O , 32 GB RAM DDR4 3600 Mhz CL15 , Corsair MP600 Pro Watercooled 2 TB for P3D, Samsung SSD980 1 TB for Addons and Crucial MMX500, Red Devil Ultimate 6900 XT
January 12, 20251 yr Author 27 minutes ago, Lucky38i said: JustFlight, Leonardo and FlyByWire do. i guess it just depends on customer demand vs dev time. It took me a week or two to implement on the FBW and when we announced it there wasn’t a huge amount of reception to my surprise. I get a few support questions here and there but not nearly as much as I expected. I think a lot of people don’t use GSX fully but mostly as a pushback tool. Or even more so, there’s a lot less GSX owners than we assume. just my 2 pence Good info, I don’t fly FBW that much and tend to default to Fenix. I need to give the 320N another try, it’s fantastic! Mark CYYZ
January 12, 20251 yr 1 hour ago, MarkW said: Good info, I don’t fly FBW that much and tend to default to Fenix. I need to give the 320N another try, it’s fantastic! Hmmm in the PMDG 777 I request boarding and GSX works the doors, inputs the simbrief ZFW, passenger numbers, payload numbers etc etc. If I need catering or another service I simply pull up the GSX menu but I don't have to manually load/input anything. GSX takes care of it all. Have a Wonderful Day -Paul Solk
January 13, 20251 yr Not sure what everyone is complaining so much about. When GSX is turned off my Fenix works just fine. 🙂 (kidding calm down. I love GSX) Edited January 13, 20251 yr by Sonosusto 7800+4090+64ram Just Flight RJ, 146 and F28, Piper Arrows ---A2A Aerostar and Comanche---Black Square Starship, Duke(s), TBM, Bonanza/BaronV2, KingAir---FSReborn FSR500---COWS Da42---FX P180, HJet & VJet---FlySimWare Chancellor and LearJet---FlightSimStudio EMB175 &P2006T---Fenix 320---PMDG DC6, 737(700+900), 777---C22J---Milviz Cessna 310 & Porter---SimWorksStudios Kodiak, PC12, Zenith & RV14---BigRadials Goose---IndiaFoxEcho MB3339+F35.
January 13, 20251 yr Fenix by far are the best developer of airliners in MSFS2020 and 2024 they are King and don't take months. PMDG can learn from them Edited January 13, 20251 yr by jason74 Jason Richards
January 13, 20251 yr 13 minutes ago, jason74 said: Fenix by far are the best developer of airliners in MSFS2020 and 2024 they are King and don't take months. PMDG can learn from them I would not go that far but I feel they have been a little disrespected by some lately though. Don't ask me why.
January 13, 20251 yr Author 11 hours ago, psolk said: Hmmm in the PMDG 777 I request boarding and GSX works the doors, inputs the simbrief ZFW, passenger numbers, payload numbers etc etc. If I need catering or another service I simply pull up the GSX menu but I don't have to manually load/input anything. GSX takes care of it all. I guess I am doing it wrong then, I will have to run a test. I usually get GSX to load pax and fuel but I have to go into the FMC to say load pax/fuel. Still not fully automatic though with one button. Mark CYYZ
January 13, 20251 yr I'm not sure the PMDG obsession with using their own ground handling vehicles - the animations are dated and don't work very well, and the equipment takes even longer than GSX. It would be nice if they'd at least offer a toggle option to disable them, in addition to some sort of better GSX integration. I'd like to see that tablet page look more like the Maddog or Fenix integration.
January 13, 20251 yr PMDG doesn't spend time on GSX integration because it's not something their Xbox customers can use. Mathjis has stated as much. 31 minutes ago, mspencer said: I'm not sure the PMDG obsession with using their own ground handling vehicles - the animations are dated and don't work very well, and the equipment takes even longer than GSX. It would be nice if they'd at least offer a toggle option to disable them, in addition to some sort of better GSX integration. I'd like to see that tablet page look more like the Maddog or Fenix integration.
January 13, 20251 yr 45 minutes ago, chapstick said: PMDG doesn't spend time on GSX integration because it's not something their Xbox customers can use. Mathjis has stated as much. Eh... okay I can see the logic but I disagree. I guess if it stops us from embarking upon another 24 month mystical tablet-like adventure while they figure out GSX, that's a small blessing. I can live with it.
January 13, 20251 yr 22 hours ago, Noel said: I'm certain they all could...if they tried/wanted to. So the questions becomes: what can we do to stimulate the other devs to do the same? Simple, just buy the Fenix AMD Ryzen 7 3700X 4.2 32 gig ram, Nvidia RTX3060 12 gig, Intel 760 SSD M2 NVMe 512 gig, M2NVMe 1Tbt (OS) M2NVMe 2Tbt (MSFS) Crucial MX500 SSD (Backup OS). VR Oculus Quest 2 Windows 11 25H2 YouTube:- https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC96wsF3D_h5GzNNJnuDH3WQ 2k+ Videos & Streams BATC and FSFO FB Group:- https://www.facebook.com/groups/1571953959750565 Flight Sim First Officer (FSFOv6) and SoFly Beta Tester Reality Is For People Who Can't Handle Simulation!
January 13, 20251 yr 1 hour ago, chapstick said: PMDG doesn't spend time on GSX integration because it's not something their Xbox customers can use. Mathjis has stated as much. I think even prior to that they said they don't want to try to rely on, and push everyone to purchase, another 3rd party program. They'd rather try to accommodate those things in their base aircraft, as clunky as it may be. I don't really use PMDG's refill/passenger loading system at all so it could be that I just need to get used to it. That being said, just to reinforce what Lucky said, I mainly use gsx for pushback. I don't usually have the time to deal with all the aspects of loading fuel/bags/passengers/catering/etc.
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