21 minutes ago, kdfw__ said:

Seems you’re trying hard to create drama. 
 

let it go and let the dev focus on fixing items already identified on the interweb. 

You seem to be "a character" based on a quick review of your history, so I'll simply state that seeking a response from a dev who has 1) been subject to unprofessional commentary from an entity in business to sell their product, and 2) has been quiet since release in general so we're not even sure they're aware of issues, is a worthy pursuit in the interest of transparency and assuaging concerns from the established, curmudgeonly, self-declared voices of authority here who advocate for developers to "die on the vine" if they aren't of of the PMDG, Fenix, etc ilk. 

Most developers are forthcoming in providing updates, so here's hoping they do. (They already provided a brief statement that I edited above).

We're all excited for the release of a solid vintage DC-9 aircraft. 

Edited January 24, 20251 yr by STK

9 hours ago, JustFlightScott said:

Bit odd. Different pricing showing for me. Not sure what's occurring there.

For me, as at your site, SimMarket includes the VAT, at 20%.
At SimMarket, it's 58.80 Euros and at your site, it was £46.99.
Both prices stated to include VAT.

9 hours ago, STK said:

You seem to be "a character" based on a quick review of your history, so I'll simply state that seeking a response from a dev who has 1) been subject to unprofessional commentary from an entity in business to sell their product, and 2) has been quiet since release in general so we're not even sure they're aware of issues, is a worthy pursuit in the interest of transparency and assuaging concerns from the established, curmudgeonly, self-declared voices of authority here who advocate for developers to "die on the vine" if they aren't of of the PMDG, Fenix, etc ilk. 

Most developers are forthcoming in providing updates, so here's hoping they do. (They already provided a brief statement that I edited above).

We're all excited for the release of a solid vintage DC-9 aircraft.

You seem to really insist on the devs not being aware of the product state when they publish it... Most people here have on opinion on this DC9 based on Sky Sim's previous release: their MD11 is nowhere near being "study level"

Yes we are all hoping for a solid DC9 but this won't be it sadly, let's be realistic

11 hours ago, STK said:

.While I remain uneasy that a publisher chose at the outset to publicly characterize a developer's product as poor, thus forcing the scrutiny as to the process (remain neutral, or praise in public, correct in private), missteps happen.

Just to clarify - Just Flight is not the publisher of this title - in this case simply a vendor like Simmarket or Microsoft. When asked why it was taken off sale, Just Flight has replied candidly and that reply doesn't seem to be out of step with most of the online discussion about what, compared to many other titles, is an expensive product.

13 hours ago, STK said:

You seem to be "a character" based on a quick review of your history, so I'll simply state that seeking a response....

@kdfw__ is right, let it go. Just Flight doesn't owe you a thing. Quit beating a dead horse. If you seek further gratification please do so by using the proper channels and contact Just Flight directly via their Contact page. 

6 hours ago, Dereksmalls said:

Just to clarify - Just Flight is not the publisher of this title - in this case simply a vendor like Simmarket or Microsoft. When asked why it was taken off sale, Just Flight has replied candidly and that reply doesn't seem to be out of step with most of the online discussion about what, compared to many other titles, is an expensive product.

Ultimately if I buy an appliance at your store and it doesn't work, I'm taking it back to your store and the commercial dispute is between us - not the manufacturer. Obviously it's not a sustainable business model to sell expensive products that the majority of people are trying to return or are complaining about - tanks your brand, even if you didn't develop the aircraft.

I can understand wanting distance from this one, it's not good.

Ultimately - this dev has been warming over this product for about 15 years, and it shows. Fundamentally, this is still the same aircraft I had in FSX - it's unfortunate some people didn't realize this. Gotta do your due diligence these days before purchasing.

Edited January 24, 20251 yr by mspencer

Apparently there's an update coming soon.

As an owner of this plane now it's great to see but christ man. Still a mess.
Some of it does look like user error, but still lots of pretty dire issues especially with the autopilot.

Thing is, I wouldn't have minded if it was labelled as early access. It's just too expensive an add-on for the state that it's in. 

 

 

FYI...................

If you contact [email protected] they can provide you with a link for the second beta update which will address the issues with the autopilot, APU etc....

I have now done several test flights and it appears most items are fixed

Peter Mathess's latest video seems to indicate some major improvements, which is great news.

A very significant update has been released for this at last.
I'd really love to know if this is worth getting now, would love to recreate some flights from my childhood.

4 minutes ago, atco said:

A very significant update has been released for this at last.
I'd really love to know if this is worth getting now, would love to recreate some flights from my childhood.

Me too!  I'm holding off getting this and the Aerosoft CRJ, due to each companies poor history with aircraft.

On 1/20/2025 at 9:39 PM, JamesIL said:

I bought the 2024 native version. It's ok but has problems. Most test don't work and cannot get apu to shut off. Sounds are not the best. Hopefully it gets better with some updates.

How does it fly?

Edited April 4, 20251 yr by alanw2005

First video review here:

To be honest I think I'm going to take a punt and pick it up. It looks like its in a pretty reasonable state now, miles ahead of where it was at release, certainly looks very flyable and can be operated by the book.

It willm be interesting to see an updated reveiw by a real pilot. The initial real pilot review was not too good.
 

 

@atco, how's the DC-9 going?