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Lossness Scaling 3.1 Beta

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1 minute ago, AnkH said:

Do you guys really manage to run a 4h plus session with LSFG? In my case, usually after around 30mins, it becomes a stutterfest or simply stops working...

I run it for 10-12 hours regularly. 

That said, there are a lot of people like Ron above who do also report issues so it is like everything still hit or miss. Usually for me if it becomes a stutterfest it means something else has taken the focus in the background and simply clicking on the MSFS window restores things.  

 

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-Paul Solk

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    3.1 Beta @Tester AFG Introducing Adaptive Frame Generation (AFG) mode, which dynamically adjusts fractional multipliers to maintain a specified framerate, independent of the base game framer

  • rjack1282
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    I posted this in an XP topic where Lossless was discussed but AFG is amazing. Despite what I previously said about using AFG with a 60hz monitor, I have changed my mind.  With fps capped at 30 an

  • OK, this adaptive is like some sort of tribal magic LOL.  I have never had a smoother FS experience in my life.  Taxiing and climbout were like a whole new experience.   Need to play around but I

1 hour ago, psolk said:

My goodness Mike, that is the best I have EVER seen your setup run!!  That video was stunning.  The way the scenery passed on approach and the sensation of speed on touchdown was phenomenal.  Which sim was that?  

 

1 hour ago, psolk said:

My goodness Mike, that is the best I have EVER seen your setup run!!  That video was stunning.  The way the scenery passed on approach and the sensation of speed on touchdown was phenomenal.  Which sim was that?  

Hi,

Believe it or not that was XP12 which is harder hitting than MS220, I cannot wait to see the results in that base platform. I should be able to run above ultra easily. Looks like the 4090 and AMD7950x3D is just fine for running the sim. Glad I wasn't able to find any 5090 cards.

This is what I did to get that performance. 

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MS2020 and XPlane 12 Computer Cleanup
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 1. Clean the rolling cache in MS2020 if you use one.
 2. Open Nvidia Control Panel and turn off Shader Cache.
 3. Change your monitor refresh rate to 60Hz.
 4. Open C:\Users\Appdata\Local\Nvidia and erase all the files in the DXCache. Next open the GLCache folder 
    and go into the first sub folder with the crazy folder name, delete everything below this sub folder.
 5. Run disk cleanup.
 6. Turn on Shader Cache via Nvidia Control Panel.
 7. Download the latest DLSS files and swap them with the originals, remember to keep a backup in case this doesn't work.
    I use DLSS Swapper for MS2020.
 8. Run Nvidia Inspector and change the entries below to the following.
 9. Download Nvidia drivers 572.70 and install them.
10. Erase the Shader Cache files in XPlane 12\output\shadercache\vulkan sub folder


Under "OTHER" in Nvidia Inspector
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Enable DLSS-FG overide: Change number to the following - 0x00000001
Enable DLSS-RR overide: Change number to the following - 0x00000001
Enable DLSS-SR overide: Change number to the following - 0x00000001


Keep in mind you many not have all three entries, just change what you have in the listing.
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Override DLSS-FG Preset: Change number to the following - 0x00FFFFFF
Override DLSS-RR Preset: Change number to the following - 0x00FFFFFF
Override DLSS-SR Preset: Change number to the following - 0x00FFFFFF

In MS2020 Use DLSS Super Resolution, Frame Generation is ON and Frame rate limit at 33% or 50% if 33 doesn't work. 


 

Edited by Mike_CFII_MEL

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3 hours ago, psolk said:

What refresh rate is your monitor?  You could run X2 and have a consistent 60FPS or run the new adaptive if you have a higher refresh rate monitor.  

In either case the difference in fluidity should be noticable.  

Normally I don't really like to recommend things that cost others money but the benefits I've seen for $7 makes me pretty comfortable with this one...

165 Hz FreeSync.

I'm going to give it a try, will let you know how it goes 🙂

Edited by flyingscampi

FS2024 • PMDG 738, 77F • FSL A321 • A2A Comanche, Aerostar • BS Baron, Bonanza, Caravan Pro • JF Tomahawk • TAOG H500C
BeyondATC • GSX Pro • ChasePlane & Flow Pro • TDS GTNXi • FSUIPC • AutoFPS • RealTurb

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5 hours ago, psolk said:

What refresh rate is your monitor?  You could run X2 and have a consistent 60FPS or run the new adaptive if you have a higher refresh rate monitor.  

In either case the difference in fluidity should be noticable.  

Normally I don't really like to recommend things that cost others money but the benefits I've seen for $7 makes me pretty comfortable with this one...

So I setup the same flight: MSFS 2020, Aerosoft EDDF, FSL A321, BATC @ 5 Traffic (FSLTL 2K models), sitting at a gate with the aircraft powered up.

AMD Adrenalin has FreeSync enabled, Chill set to 30 fps. FSR 2 Quality mode enabled in MSFS.

AutoFPS is showing ~25 fps and the view is very choppy when you pan about both in the cockpit and using the drone camera.

I set LSFG to 3.0, Adaptive, Target 165 frames, and started it. The LSFG screen counter is showing 25/165 and the monitor is confirming a framerate of 165.

My GPU went from ~50% utilisation to ~65% and power went from ~120 watts to ~180 watts.

When I pan about now it is as smooth as glass. It's incredible! 🥰

I tried changing FSR to TAA and this sharpened the displays slightly without any effect on performance, so I'll use that from now on.

If I pan quickly in the cockpit I get a shadowy effect in places, but this is entirely bearable. I've got an early start so I'll try a flight tomorrow.

FS2024 • PMDG 738, 77F • FSL A321 • A2A Comanche, Aerostar • BS Baron, Bonanza, Caravan Pro • JF Tomahawk • TAOG H500C
BeyondATC • GSX Pro • ChasePlane & Flow Pro • TDS GTNXi • FSUIPC • AutoFPS • RealTurb

9800X3D B650E • ROG OC RTX 5090 • 64GB DDR5-6000 • VKB Gladiator, STECS, T-Rudder • Tobii 5 • ISP 1 Gbps

12 minutes ago, flyingscampi said:

So I setup the same flight: MSFS 2020, Aerosoft EDDF, FSL A321, BATC @ 5 Traffic (FSLTL 2K models), sitting at a gate with the aircraft powered up.

AMD Adrenalin has FreeSync enabled, Chill set to 30 fps. FSR 2 Quality mode enabled in MSFS.

AutoFPS is showing ~25 fps and the view is very choppy when you pan about both in the cockpit and using the drone camera.

I set LSFG to 3.0, Adaptive, Target 165 frames, and started it. The LSFG screen counter is showing 25/165 and the monitor is confirming a framerate of 165.

My GPU went from ~50% utilisation to ~65% and power went from ~120 watts to ~180 watts.

When I pan about now it is as smooth as glass. It's incredible! 🥰

I tried changing FSR to TAA and this sharpened the displays slightly without any effect on performance, so I'll use that from now on.

If I pan quickly in the cockpit I get a shadowy effect in places, but this is entirely bearable. I've got an early start so I'll try a flight tomorrow.

👊👊👊

Awesome!!  Yep, that's my experience too.  Pure witchcraft for $7!

Really glad you are pleased.

Have a Wonderful Day

-Paul Solk

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6 minutes ago, psolk said:

👊👊👊

Awesome!!  Yep, that's my experience too.  Pure witchcraft for $7!

Really glad you are pleased.

Thanks for the tip!

LSFG appears to bypass the main thread bottleneck you get in 2020 when loaded with add-ons, and lets the GPU do its stuff with hardly any affect on graphics quality.

The A321 is a resource hog compared to PMDG's 738, maybe because its an external program...

FS2024 • PMDG 738, 77F • FSL A321 • A2A Comanche, Aerostar • BS Baron, Bonanza, Caravan Pro • JF Tomahawk • TAOG H500C
BeyondATC • GSX Pro • ChasePlane & Flow Pro • TDS GTNXi • FSUIPC • AutoFPS • RealTurb

9800X3D B650E • ROG OC RTX 5090 • 64GB DDR5-6000 • VKB Gladiator, STECS, T-Rudder • Tobii 5 • ISP 1 Gbps

On 3/6/2025 at 10:22 AM, History said:

 Adaptive Mode increases

I am sorry, sis I miss something in this thread.

Where is this adaptive mode. I do not have this in lossless

Ron

MSFS 2024 -Too many airplanes to name. Too many airports to name.

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You have to be on the beta to see the new adaptive mode option 

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15 hours ago, RobJC said:

Will this be beneficial if you have a 4090?

Definitely. What CPU are you running and what monitor are you using and what's its Hz? How many FPS are you getting now?

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Intel i5 14400F | Gigabyte H610M | Manli RTX 3090 24GB | Kingston DDR4 32GB | DarkFlash 800W | Win 11 | MSFS2020&24 | Lossless Scaling & AutoFPS |

 

It is now officially released. Will give it another try...

Greetings, Chris

AMD Ryzen 7 9800X3D, 2x32GB DDR5 6000MT/s RAM, MSI RTX 4090 Ventus 3X, Windows 11 Home, MSFS2024

Not sure this will work may need to upload it onto YouTube:  This is at the gate in Newark, all setting maxed TLOD at 385/OLOD at 185, 200 AI active with LS off and then On.  I hope the video does it justice, I think it gets lost in translation with the phone lens... 

https://photos.app.goo.gl/6Bo7cCNyPkMzxZpW6

 

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-Paul Solk

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I suffer from pretty annoying rubberbanding with the newest version: it is super smooth but if I pan around slightly faster, this rubberbanding starts. So again no option for me sadly...

Greetings, Chris

AMD Ryzen 7 9800X3D, 2x32GB DDR5 6000MT/s RAM, MSI RTX 4090 Ventus 3X, Windows 11 Home, MSFS2024

27 minutes ago, AnkH said:

I suffer from pretty annoying rubberbanding with the newest version: it is super smooth but if I pan around slightly faster, this rubberbanding starts. So again no option for me sadly...

That sucks, what settings are you using? 

Have a Wonderful Day

-Paul Solk

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The new one, adaptive. Basically the default settings otherwise, tested some alternative settings, the issue remains. FPS limited to 48 via RTSS and front edge sync. I have a 144Hz monitor.

Greetings, Chris

AMD Ryzen 7 9800X3D, 2x32GB DDR5 6000MT/s RAM, MSI RTX 4090 Ventus 3X, Windows 11 Home, MSFS2024

2 minutes ago, AnkH said:

The new one, adaptive. Basically the default settings otherwise, tested some alternative settings, the issue remains. FPS limited to 48 via RTSS and front edge sync. I have a 144Hz monitor.

Are you using Scaling in LS or set to off? 

What about in sim?  And if you are good and don't want to take more time troubleshooting just let me know LOL.  Totally get it.  

Have a Wonderful Day

-Paul Solk

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