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Lossness Scaling 3.1 Beta

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23 minutes ago, Ianrivaldosmith said:

I do not lock, I think past 100 FPS it is better not to lock. 

Ha, I remember the days where there would be one less zero in that number LOL.  

Crazy, I never thought I would see FS this smooth.  It's always the term fluid that comes to mind but I'm convinced there are ancillary benefits as well such as my blurries being eliminated with a TLOD of 385.  

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    3.1 Beta @Tester AFG Introducing Adaptive Frame Generation (AFG) mode, which dynamically adjusts fractional multipliers to maintain a specified framerate, independent of the base game framer

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    I posted this in an XP topic where Lossless was discussed but AFG is amazing. Despite what I previously said about using AFG with a 60hz monitor, I have changed my mind.  With fps capped at 30 an

  • OK, this adaptive is like some sort of tribal magic LOL.  I have never had a smoother FS experience in my life.  Taxiing and climbout were like a whole new experience.   Need to play around but I

25 minutes ago, psolk said:

I am not, any sort of frame cap seems to introduce micro-stutter on my machine and the LOD results with things unlocked at 385 are quite unbelievable.  Everything is in focus, no more popping objects it is phenomenal.  I posted some shots in the screenshot forum back a couple of weeks asking where my blurries had gone 😉 

Yes to GSync but my monitor is only compatible, not ultra and 48FPS is the adaptive sync limit but Lossless with adaptive auto adjusts the times I do drop below 48 anyway.

I know the preference is always to lock but this is just what works best for my system.  

And v-sync off in game and NVCP?

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2 minutes ago, Alvega said:

And v-sync off in game and NVCP?

If you have nvidia reflex at ultra, v-sync would technically never ever kick in on a G-Sync monitor. 

2 minutes ago, Alvega said:

And v-sync off in game and NVCP?

Correct, it has really no impact anymore, my refresh is 120Hz and I'm never going to exceed that and LS is set to an adaptive cap of 118 in my case combined  with reflex at Ultra so  it really has no impact anymore. 

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10 minutes ago, Ianrivaldosmith said:

If you have nvidia reflex at ultra, v-sync would technically never ever kick in on a G-Sync monitor. 

Where do I set Nvidia reflex at ultra?

Alvega

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2 minutes ago, Alvega said:

Where do I set Nvidia reflex at ultra?

It is on automatically if you have FG active in MSFS, if not, set it in the nvidia control panel. 

5 minutes ago, Ianrivaldosmith said:

It is on automatically if you have FG active in MSFS, if not, set it in the nvidia control panel. 

Though I had to disable FG in the sim to use Lossless Scaling. You mean I should have FG enabled in the sim?

Alvega

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32 minutes ago, Alvega said:

Though I had to disable FG in the sim to use Lossless Scaling. You mean I should have FG enabled in the sim?

Yep.  I am using them together. 

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23 minutes ago, psolk said:

Yep.  I am using them together. 

Hmmm, if I need to have FG enabled then I don't need to use Lossless. With just FG I already have a stutter free sim. I wanted to use Lossless so I could disable FG because I want to use Nvidia filters, which crash the sim when used with FG enabled.

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Well, I wouldn't expect it to be possible, or at least recommended, to use both Lossless and FG in sim?

I thought of using Lossless (which so far I have only used with X-Plane 12) in FS 2024 with TAA only, not even DLSS, if I plan to use Lossless with it's own scaling?

Anyway, as soon as I find the time I'll try to enable DLSS in FS 2024, but, does that mean I should get DLSS4 first? All that mess of having to use Nvidia Inspector to set some variables, then DLSS Swapper and that registry trick to check the versions ...

Maybe I'll stay with Lossless + TAA 🤔

BTW the latest Geeforce driver does not like Nvidia Inspector 😕 and I had to revert to the previous version...

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1 hour ago, jcomm said:

Well, I wouldn't expect it to be possible, or at least recommended, to use both Lossless and FG in sim?

Works great, with a high HZ monitor it's golden. 

4 minutes ago, Ianrivaldosmith said:

Works great, with a high HZ monitor it's golden. 

Ah ok, not my case - 60Hz 😉

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2 hours ago, Alvega said:

Hmmm, if I need to have FG enabled then I don't need to use Lossless. With just FG I already have a stutter free sim. I wanted to use Lossless so I could disable FG because I want to use Nvidia filters, which crash the sim when used with FG enabled.

You can try it without I suppose.  I've never tried it.  

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4 hours ago, jcomm said:

Well, I wouldn't expect it to be possible, or at least recommended, to use both Lossless and FG in sim?

I've only seen reports of using the actual FG (the one availabile with RTX 40 and 50 Series) with LS. Remember the FG mod has even more artifacts than LS.

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If Im using LLS do I need to turn OFF Frame Gen in MSFS2020? 

I have a 4090. 

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