The 5090 prices are ridiculous in the UK, and next to impossible to get hold of anyway. I’ve seen some 5080s for sale though - but 16GBs doesn’t cut it now. So I’m waiting to see what the 5080ti/super brings in terms of VRAM and performance. 

 My 3090 is doing just fine with frame gen and flying mostly GA - wish I’d bought a 4090 though back in the day. 

Why not a 5080 ?

7 hours ago, OverTheEDJ said:

Can anyone get a solid 4K 60fps "without" FG with MAX settings using a 5090 in MS24?

Just for what it's worth, I get that with a 4090, except in big airports with lots of injected traffic. My VRAM is always comfortably low, so I think it's a CPU bottleneck (but I'm not an expert on that). I just flew a trip from Nagasaki to Sendai with graphics settings on max* and RealTraffic injecting real traffic, and the log from AutoFPS shows 60 fps steadily from pushback to parking, with no dips below 60 fps, and no reduction in any graphics settings. OLOD 1000, TLOD 300 on the ground, 800 in flight. I never use frame generation.

With medium-sized airports like these, there will be 10 or so static aircraft on the ground, and between 0 and 3 live aircraft taxying on the surface. Enroute, I use a 40 nm bubble for injected traffic and there's no need to ever reduce any settings.

That said, I flew into VHHH last night with payware scenery and live traffic, and there were something like 120 parked aircraft and 20 or more live aircraft, and the fps fell to something like 47, but AutoFPS had to occasionally reduce TLOD to 25 to maintain it, with fewer trees, and with clouds stepped down from ultra. From a "smoothness" standpoint, I don't think I could tell the difference between 47 fps and 60 fps, but the mountains around the airport definitely looked flatter with the lower TLOD.

I like to have the full package: awesome graphics and buttery smoothness, so I just fly to these mid-sized airports most of the time and I get the results I described above: enough traffic for the environment to feel alive, with graphics on max*, 60 fps, no frame gen.

*) Everything is on max except the following: trees (high instead of ultra, because it looks visually better that way); fauna off; raytracing off.

Edited April 22, 20251 yr by prolixindec

8 hours ago, Flyfaster_MTN002 said:

Why not a 5080 ?

VRAM too low for me (coming from 3090 24GB)

9 hours ago, hanhamreds said:

The 5090 prices are ridiculous in the UK, and next to impossible to get hold of anyway. I’ve seen some 5080s for sale though - but 16GBs doesn’t cut it now. So I’m waiting to see what the 5080ti/super brings in terms of VRAM and performance. 

 My 3090 is doing just fine with frame gen and flying mostly GA - wish I’d bought a 4090 though back in the day. 

I see a positive trend regarding the prizes. There are already some offers just below 3K € in Germany/Austria. I have some hope that prizes continue decreasing. But predictions are like glass bowl prophecies, especially because of the world tariff conflicts. But maybe, the cable overheat problems that can occur are leading to reduced selling which could reduce prizes even more? I'm hoping for prizes below 2500 € ...

10 minutes ago, Nemo said:

VRAM too low for me (coming from 3090 24GB)

Exactly!  And that is the dilemma  for anyone wanting to upgrade to the 5000 series GPUs. For MSFS2020/24 16GB VRAM  doesn't cut it at least for 4K and that means a grossly overpriced 5090 - in Australia $6000 plus even up to $7000 if you can get one and maybe even higher if the current turmoil on world trade markets continues.

Bruce

nVidia would do well if they released a 5080 with 24GB.

Don't upgrade to 50xx if you happen to use VR with a Varjo Aero - not supported by current Nvidia drivers.

https://www.pcgamer.com/hardware/vr-hardware/nvidia-confirms-open-issue-with-varjo-aero-vr-headsets-and-rtx-50-series-graphics-cards-after-affected-users-ask-for-help/

12 hours ago, hanhamreds said:

The 5090 prices are ridiculous in the UK,

Yup, there are plenty in stock now if you fancy spending north of £2200. Ridiclious. 

2 hours ago, Nemo said:

I'm hoping for prizes below 2500 € ...

Still way too high... 

I refuse to pay 5-6K so ill stick with my 3080 TI

Is the question meant for using VR? Because I have the 3090, am running a 3.5K monitor, almost all settings maxed out (LOD and details at 200) and have more than enough fps; around 40-45 fps with Fenix at payware-airports without frame-generation and around 80-90fps with FG. I don’t see any need to get better fps. But I don’t use VR.

7 hours ago, Tavers said:

nVidia would do well if they released a 5080 with 24GB.

hopefully the 5080super/ti will have 20GB at least - that will do nicely. 

Why the need for so much (more?) VRAM?

8 minutes ago, Flyfaster_MTN002 said:

Why the need for so much (more?) VRAM?

Some of us use the PC for other things like 3D.