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Apparently Carenado released another Bonanza

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58 minutes ago, Bert Pieke said:

For those who would like to compare the cockpit layout..  F33 first, then A36.

Always preferred the F33/V35/Baby Baron style panel to the newer A36s and Barons.  Part of it is nostalgia, I admit, but it's also a practical thing.  I've always found the "turbine style" engine gauges of the newer panel harder to see than the nice, big, clear older ones.  Makes power adjustments so much easier.

That said, since I'm still in 2020 and just don't think I can do the Carenado thing anymore anyway, I'm sticking to the Black Square analogue A36 and hoping their new "Professional" series releases soon.  I'm a lot more judicious about airplane buying since moving to MSFS than I was back in my FSX/P3D days and Black Square makes planes that I know I'll keep flying and flying, rather than buying and parking and buying and parking.

 

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    If you're thinking about buying this, keep in mind that Black Square has a new Bonanza Professional series in the pipeline: https://www.justflight.com/articles/new-black-square-msfs-aircraft-developme

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    I also caved. A few bugs as has been mentioned and yes, a little overly sensitive but, for me, the best Carenado available in 2024 as of today and the only one I will keep installed. Very happy to spe

3 minutes ago, tttocs said:

I've always found the "turbine style" engine gauges of the newer panel harder to see than the nice, big, clear older ones.  Makes power adjustments so much easier.

Agree.. but it does force the GPS further over to the right..  The A36 has a more compact arrangement which I think I would prefer if this was my RW aircraft.. 😉

Bert

3 hours ago, tttocs said:

Always preferred the F33/V35/Baby Baron style panel to the newer A36s and Barons.  Part of it is nostalgia, I admit, but it's also a practical thing.  I've always found the "turbine style" engine gauges of the newer panel harder to see than the nice, big, clear older ones.  Makes power adjustments so much easier.

That said, since I'm still in 2020 and just don't think I can do the Carenado thing anymore anyway, I'm sticking to the Black Square analogue A36 and hoping their new "Professional" series releases soon.  I'm a lot more judicious about airplane buying since moving to MSFS than I was back in my FSX/P3D days and Black Square makes planes that I know I'll keep flying and flying, rather than buying and parking and buying and parking.

 

Scott

It's a rare Scott sighting.  I'll think you'll quite pleased with the Pro series 😉 

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33 minutes ago, ryanbatc said:

I'll think you'll quite pleased with the Pro series 😉 

Ryan, I have been checking the JustFlight forum for any updates on any of the BlackSquare aircraft and not seeing any type of timeframe for release. You probably can't say anything either way, but if you can give any indication, I am kind of lost as to why there are numerous aircraft by this awesome dev but seems like no hints of what is coming out and when. Just so eager to get the c208 pro and, well, all of them in 2024 again. Wish the dev was a bit more vocal about specific progress with the different aircraft and even broad estimates of release dates (? Summer ? Fall)

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3 hours ago, ryanbatc said:

It's a rare Scott sighting.  I'll think you'll quite pleased with the Pro series 😉 

Hah!  Too funny Ryan.  I guess that, like my plane buying, I've become more judicious in my posting since returning to simming.  And yes, I am SO looking forward to the Pro series.  An updated Bonanza at the level of the more recent offerings, good as the current analogue Bo is, is greatly anticipated.  In the meantime, following my new philosophy of focusing on a single plane for extended flying, I'm currently enjoying building hours in the Grand Duke.  A lot!  BTW, currently using one of your beautiful paints (N181BD) so thanks for that!

 

Scott

On 5/2/2025 at 2:01 AM, outermarker said:

If you're thinking about buying this, keep in mind that Black Square has a new Bonanza Professional series in the pipeline: https://www.justflight.com/articles/new-black-square-msfs-aircraft-development-update-feb-2025

Yeah, I find no reason to ever buy another Carenado product again. Considering every plane I've bought was riddle with bugs, hardly updated and not remotely enticing. Slightly better function over default planes, if that.

BlackSquare, worth every penny. It would be best to stop giving developers money that hardly update their planes(carenado, nextgen simulations, etc).

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unfortunately I have to agree with you. and I have been a loyal Carenado customer for the last 3 decades. if they can't be bothered to fix the extreme over bright backlight in their GNS gps in the default Cessna 404 Titan, I am not going to spend a single dime on additional Carenados, that ship with new bugs from day one, right from the factory. if and when they'll ever fix even such minor issues is anybody's guess.

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11 hours ago, tttocs said:

Hah!  Too funny Ryan.  I guess that, like my plane buying, I've become more judicious in my posting since returning to simming.  And yes, I am SO looking forward to the Pro series.  An updated Bonanza at the level of the more recent offerings, good as the current analogue Bo is, is greatly anticipated.  In the meantime, following my new philosophy of focusing on a single plane for extended flying, I'm currently enjoying building hours in the Grand Duke.  A lot!  BTW, currently using one of your beautiful paints (N181BD) so thanks for that!

 

Scott

Oh the dukes are maybe in the top 3 very best GA addons for msfs.  Ever since I saw a whole lineup of dukes during a conference in Duluth (when I worked at the tower), I couldn't stop loving them hehe.

My all time favorite GA is the Lancair Legacy.  Can't wait for FSW's rendition.  Rumor has it there will be analog version along with the G3x version.

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1 hour ago, ryanbatc said:

FSW's rendition

That's new to me. Exciting!

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2 hours ago, ryanbatc said:

My all time favorite GA is the Lancair Legacy.  Can't wait for FSW's rendition.

Wasn't aware that was coming.  Yep, a P3D favorite of mine as well.  It's good to have exciting things on the horizon!


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22 hours ago, Bert Pieke said:

And a recent sightseeing trip..

 

Sightseeing over Torquay and the Jurassic coast - where I live - and into EGTE with a big cross wind. Live weather is spot on.

 

2 hours ago, tttocs said:

Wasn't aware that was coming.  Yep, a P3D favorite of mine as well.  It's good to have exciting things on the horizon!


Scott

Oh yeah.  They're working with 2 Lancair owners directly.  Go to their discord for some preview pics

https://discord.gg/anu7PfjT

And then here's the pics if you login 

https://discord.com/channels/1142238375919747143/1365689359386411048

 

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My thoughts on it are.... It flies well,it's a GA plane I'm not sure what features people really want from it. It handles like a Bonanza,looks like a Bonanza etc. No it doesn't have spark plug fouling,or a bunch of customization options but you can get out and preflight it check the fuel,oil etc.... Personally I find the simulation of fouled plugs and engine wear/damage to be way over done in sims. Like seriously I've been flying for 24 years and have 6000+ hrs and I've had one engine failure and fouled plugs maybe 15 times usually because a student didnt lean the mixture properly on a hot day...Engine wear is measured over thousands of hours in operation and I've seen engines that were absolutely thrashed go well beyond TBO and babied engine sling a rod at 200hrs. Meanwhile in sim if you run an engine 1 inch to far boom it comes apart after 5 minutes. Personally I can deal without the headaches of that.

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1 hour ago, z06z33 said:

My thoughts on it are.... It flies well,it's a GA plane I'm not sure what features people really want from it. It handles like a Bonanza,looks like a Bonanza etc.

Can you push in the knobs on the GNS or TDS GTN units?  That is required to switch radios etc, but I cannot do it in this airplane...  A bug or pilot error?

Bert

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