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Farewell MSFS 2020

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5 hours ago, flying_carpet said:

Strange thing is that there isn't any 'war' between XP12 and XP11 users, and as I asked some fellow 'XP-oldtimer-users': there never was one between XP[+1] vs. XP. What does that tell us about the respective sims and/or their users?

So what does that tell us? Please answer your own question. Hopefully your answer won't spring from some kind of misplaced and judgmental angle, because the way you ask the question surely seems to suggest it?

Cheers, Bert

AMD Ryzen 5900X, 32 GB RAM, RTX 3080 Ti, Windows 11 Home 64 bit, MSFS 2024

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  • MrBitstFlyer
    MrBitstFlyer

    I'm gratified you are using the sim that you prefer, but why does that have to end with a silly comment towards 2024?  I can agree with some of your points regarding 2024 because we are not even at th

  • YukonPete
    YukonPete

    I don't understand people who think you can't have multiple simulators installed at the same time. STORAGE IS CHEAP! I still have installed XP12, P3Dv5.5, MSFS2020 and 2024. 

  • pmplayer
    pmplayer

    Not me,  still a huge MSFS2020 fan and this would go at least until the end of this year so possible at this time the most bad and anoying bugs are blocked out of MSFS2024 !! cheers 😉

I can't move on from 2020 yet as I still haven't been able to decide which version of 2024 to buy. 

I did try 2024 on gamepass around Christmas time and I didn't have any real problems so I think when I do buy it I probably won't have any reason to keep 2020 for long. I don't use any 2020 only addons or similar.

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4 hours ago, GCBraun said:

23 years to go! But I am hopeful that AI will replace me earlier! 😀

Ah, just a youngster then! AI is worrying.

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3 hours ago, ha5mvo said:

how long do you think before they adress whatever bugs are still there or allow you to get by without the VFE? That stuff is at the very bottom of the priority list, and who can blame them...?

You’re overlooking the point that both Lefteris and Andrew both love Concorde. I very much doubt they’ll leave it in its current state. How far they go in handing back control to those who wish to handle fuel, engine starts is not known. They play their cards close to their chests.

 

3 hours ago, ha5mvo said:

That's why I can predict that the "next generation" of Concord or whatever other high fidelity addon would be for the MS version of the sim. 

I can’t see anyone producing another version of Concorde. The FSL P3D one just needs a few tweaks. Their MSFS version probably isn’t too far away and the XPlane version by Colimata is a decent version.

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8 minutes ago, Ray Proudfoot said:

Their MSFS version probably isn’t too far away and the XPlane version by Colimata is a decent version.

 

I really hope it's not years away.. Wish FSL had focused on that first for MSFS rather than the A32x family.

Len
1980s: Sublogic FS II on C64 ---> 1990s: Flight Unlimited I/II, MSFS 95/98 ---> 2000s/2010s: FS/X, P3D, XP ---> 2020+: MSFS
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On 5/10/2025 at 7:47 AM, micstatic said:

The good thing about 2020 and 2024 is you can keep one addon folder for both sims then just use addon linker to associate each addon with one or both sims. 

Well kind of... that is if the 2020 version works in 2024 and doesn't cause it to crash.  Which is my problem, I'm still missing a 24 compatible version of about 50 airports.  ini builds really word not allowed me off with the "24 versions" costing 28 dollars and now more developers are following suit.

10 hours ago, flying_carpet said:

Strange thing is that there isn't any 'war' between XP12 and XP11 users, and as I asked some fellow 'XP-oldtimer-users': there never was one between XP[+1] vs. XP. What does that tell us about the respective sims and/or their users?

How did you miss all the drama when V12 Beta released...? 😆

The farewell to MSFS 2020 looks like a very long good bye. This is right now. What about SU2??? I think I will fire up the 172 in a few minutes on MSFS 2024.

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25 minutes ago, alanw2005 said:

The farewell to MSFS 2020 looks like a very long good bye. This is right now. What about SU2??? I think I will fire up the 172 in a few minutes.

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That looks good and i like it and for me it is just the true because it is the more trusted, safty and stable Sim !!

cheers 😉

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