3 hours ago, usernamerequired said:

but try flying an airliner like the vast majority of us.

Last time I looked, it was about 50/50 between GA pilots and airliner captains.. 😉

I feel like I'm in the village cafe at the end of a rainy Sunday. Not one to catch up with the other. More liars than the others. Most of you steal once a month from a patch of garden. It reeks of inexperience and inactivity from a mile away.

 

""""For me , it s a question of frame rates and fluidity. 2020 does not come close to 2024.Even using AutoFPS. I never ever have problems in 2024 where as 2020 is pretty much hit and miss depending of where I am flying.That is the main reason I wanted to switch.""""

What are you talking about, my god!!? Start cleaning up and stop piling up software that promises you nothing.

 

FS2020 is smoother than FS2024, there's not even a debate. London Heathrow Airport, Fenix, 4k, Ultra, FSLT traffic, Live weather, The winner is FS2020, and it's much prettier too.

Demonstration whenever you want!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

3 hours ago, MrBitstFlyer said:

A video low and slow means I don't get above 500ft 😅 - the statement 2024 is blurry is incorrect, simple as that.

 

 

Which one looks better to you? This is MSFS2020...

 

The screenshot above is exactly what I'm talking about when it comes to the textures in 2024. They're blurry and washed out whereas in 2020 they're sharp and very crisp. It doesn't matter how high I increase TLOD in 2024, the textures look the same.

 

 

@GCBraun Great initial post! And just wait till you see the biz jets in FS2024 development only! MS Flight Simulator progress continues!

2 minutes ago, The Flight Level said:

@GCBraun Great initial post! And just wait till you see the biz jets in FS2024 development only! MS Flight Simulator progress continues!

I only fly the HJET at FL410.  A great inbetween from GA to the TUBELINERS. 🐤

dd

2 hours ago, usernamerequired said:

Which one looks better to you? This is MSFS2020...

They both look great.

On 5/10/2025 at 12:59 AM, GCBraun said:

After 93 days of flight time and over 2,200 hours in the logbook, I’ve finally done it: MSFS 2020 has been uninstalled from my system.

It’s a bittersweet moment. For almost five years, MSFS 2020 has been a major part of my flight sim life as I’ve had an absolute blast watching this platform grow and evolve. Asobo didn’t just create a new sim; they redefined what a modern flight simulator could be.

Whether it was breaking with the landclass paradigm to bring streamed satellite scenery to the entire globe, expanding to Xbox to welcome a new generation of simmers, introducing an intuitive and frictionless Marketplace, or setting a new benchmark for developer-community engagement, MSFS 2020 consistently pushed boundaries. The regular Q&A sessions and the focus on the most wished-for features made us feel genuinely heard and involved. 

While it will never be perfect, MSFS 2020 has, without a doubt, been the most innovative flight simulator of my lifetime.

But now it’s time to look ahead.

MSFS 2024 is stable enough, at least for me, to take over as my main simulator (alongside my regular XP12 and DCS sessions). While the changes might seem incremental on the surface, there are clear and noticeable improvements: terrain rendering is more refined, lighting feels more natural, cloud depiction has more depth and nuance, and the physics system feels subtly tighter. It’s not revolutionary, but it is meaningful and it lays a promising foundation.

Yes, 2024 had a bumpy start. But updates have been frequent, stability is improving, and more add-ons are becoming available every week. The ecosystem is ramping up, and I’m confident we’re heading in the right direction.

To mark this moment, I’m including the very first screenshot I ever took in MSFS (from the early tech alpha days) and my last one from 2020 before uninstalling.

To all the developers, testers, and fellow simmers who made MSFS 2020 what it was: thank you.

Here’s to the skies of tomorrow.

I gave up on MSFS 2020 the day 2024 came out. The graphics and flight physics seemed much improved on 2024.

Interestingly, the number of MSFS users has been steadily decreasing since the launch of MSFS 2024 and twice as many people are still using MSFS 2020 vs MSFS 2024!

Edited May 15, 20251 yr by alanw2005

I believe this will change with the release of more and more SU’s and as more developers prioritise 2024 for updates and new releases. A significant milestone will be when PMDG releases their 737s.

On 14/5/2025 at 21:10, EGLD said:

De acuerdo, la iluminación nocturna en XP es impresionante y está muy por delante de MSFS; lo ha sido desde XP11.

Debo ser una minoría, pero para mí, incluso un PG ligeramente derretido es superior a cualquier escenario genérico.

Normalmente vuelo a una velocidad bastante alta y parece más realista si no te detienes a pensarlo demasiado.

El PG ahora en lugares como Londres cuando está completamente cargado es alucinante.

Y para mí, tener una PG precisa es un poco como tener ortos hermosos pero con nubes tan nubladas que no puedes ver nada: mejora la inmersión solo con *saber* que está ahí abajo, siento que realmente estoy viajando a algún lugar.

 

2 hours ago, GCBraun said:

Creo que esto cambiará con el lanzamiento de más SU y a medida que más desarrolladores prioricen el año 2024 para actualizaciones y nuevos lanzamientos. Un hito importante será el lanzamiento de los 737 por parte de PMDG.

An important milestone for PMDG's bank account because something else...

4 hours ago, GCBraun said:

I believe this will change with the release of more and more SU’s and as more developers prioritise 2024 for updates and new releases. A significant milestone will be when PMDG releases their 737s.

Streaming is definitely the future of flight sim and yes, the PMDG 737 will pull a lot of users over from MSFS 2020. Regardless, it is a glorious time to be a flight simmer. Simmers have never had so many fantastic things to complain about.

On 5/13/2025 at 12:28 AM, usernamerequired said:

The screenshot above is exactly what I'm talking about when it comes to the textures in 2024. They're blurry and washed out whereas in 2020 they're sharp and very crisp. It doesn't matter how high I increase TLOD in 2024, the textures look the same.

 

 

Sorry, I just zoomed in both screenshots after displaying them at full res, and I do not see anything blurry in the MSFS2024 screenshot, or at least not blurrier than what it is in the MSFS2020 screenshot.

Could you maybe point out precise areas that make you think that the MSFS2024 image is less crisp ?

39 minutes ago, alanw2005 said:

El streaming es sin duda el futuro de los simuladores de vuelo y sí, el PMDG 737 atraerá a muchos usuarios desde MSFS 2020. En cualquier caso, es un momento glorioso para ser simulador de vuelo. Los simuladores nunca han tenido tantas cosas fantásticas de las que quejarse.

The future is to create plausible photorealistic scenarios without the need to download hundreds of gigabytes of data every month. Google Stadia has already shown that streaming is a mistake, and the moment it becomes unprofitable, the party is over for everyone.

Would it be difficult to code 2024 so that you can choose to store files locally if you have the capacity?

Ideal for those with poor bandwidth, and multi-terabyte SSD storage is comparitavely cheap compared to the CPU/GPU's we buy.

 

My spec is getting older. So MSFS 2020 will stay in my drive, just in case I wanna fly airliners. Since I mostly fly low and slow, MSFS 2024 is the primary sim. I dont know what to do with my Xplane 12 lol, rarely use it. Don't regret purchasing it though 

Edited May 16, 20251 yr by History