39 minutes ago, V1ROTA7E said:

Porque necesitas descargar los paquetes básicos para que la herramienta de mejora de mapas funcione, sin mencionar la generación automática de árboles, edificios y casas. Supera fácilmente los 100 GB.

If your connection is Paleolithic maybe but if it is Paleolithic I don't think 2024 will work very well for you either, you download ten times more in 2024 in a few days of porcel streaming usage.

I'm awaiting SU2 for MSFS2024 before I consider making the switch over.  At the risk of offending some folks but in its current state MSFS2024 still feels early access to me.

17 hours ago, YukonPete said:

I still have installed ...., P3Dv5.5, ... 

But why on earth...

53 minutes ago, MikeyOnTheFlightDeck said:

Estoy esperando SU2 para MSFS2024 antes de considerar el cambio. A riesgo de ofender a algunos, MSFS2024, en su estado actual, me sigue pareciendo un acceso anticipado.

Even with SU2 you're going to have that feeling that there's a lot to fix and fix this is going to take a long time. It's really up to you and your level of demand to use it sooner or later.

1 hour ago, ErichB said:

But why on earth...

That is because a user is free to do so. I still have FSX on a backup computer on a HDD from 6 years ago and can use on my main system if I choose so. If He/She still have P3D v5.5 on their main drive or system so let them be as no one can force them to remove it.

Edited May 11, 20251 yr by JBDB-MD80

26 minutes ago, JBDB-MD80 said:

That is because a user is free to do so. I still have FSX on a backup computer on a HDD from 6 years ago and can use on my main system if I choose so. If He/She still have P3D v5.5 on their main drive or system so let them be as no one can force them to remove it.

I even installed FS9 just to reminisce the good old days lol... it's only a few gigabytes 

Edited May 11, 20251 yr by History

28 minutes ago, History said:

I even installed FS9 just to reminisce the good old days lol... it's only a few gigabytes 

I purchased the Steam version of FSX when it Dovetail took over and snagged it for less than $5. I recently went back and started looking and reading at Wiki about the series just to reminisce myself. I started out with FS4 back in '92. I was hooked and I was obsessed at the upcoming FS5 as Microsoft began releasing teaser pics on several of the "time sharing sites" back then before the internet became a thing.

47 minutes ago, History said:

I even installed FS9 just to reminisce the good old days lol... it's only a few gigabytes 

Not only that there is a quite few missing aircraft from the MSFS platform that were on the other platforms in the legacy days.

6 hours ago, Greazer said:

Good luck 2024 streamer, and with VFR flights. Do upgrade your internet connection. It takes time for the mountains to stream in 😆

2020 and 2024 are both streaming sims. 

A large portion (e.g. 80%) of the data you need is streamed in both sims (dem, aerial imagery, online weather and traffic). The difference is only how the remaining 20% are handled (world updates, MP addons).

In 2020 these 20% were streamed upfront and in 2024 on demand. As 2020 couldn't tell what you need upfront, it had to download 10 to 20 times as much data in addition so it made sure the 20% which needed were there (like 1000% ... 2000%).

And 2024? It is just downloading exactly the 20% you need.

So that is the main difference between the two.

7 hours ago, ErichB said:

But why on earth...

Why not? I have thasands of dollars invested. I still use some aircraft like the Q400, PMDG 747 etc.... Does not cost me a cent to keep them. Storage is cheap. You don't have to have one simulator or the other. You can have it all.

8 hours ago, UrgentSiesta said:

Sim heaven is missing the all-important Ortho photos.

Without image based ground textures, nothing looks good. It's basically MSFS' secret sauce.

thats is why you use a free program called XPlane Map Enhancement the stream the ortho as you fly. 

1 hour ago, YukonPete said:double post

Edited May 11, 20251 yr by GCBraun

1 hour ago, YukonPete said:

thats is why you use a free program called XPlane Map Enhancement the stream the ortho as you fly. 

Unfortunately that does not work well with add-on airports using custom mesh. XP terrain system is just outdated and needs a complete revamp. 

Wish I could. But I still can't get more than 10 minutes (if that) into 2024 before it invariably CTDs. I've done numerous reinstalls, updates, bug fixes, work arounds, hardware settings and firmware changes, scoured help desk recommendations and MSFS boards for help, and tried any number of so-called "expert solutions". Nothing has worked yet. For whatever reason, 2024 and my PC don't want to work together and I continually lose patience afteer hours of trying to find the problem.

At some point down the road, I'm confident that I'll finally find the culprit to the CTDs but until then, 2020 works like a charm so I'll keep on flying that for the time being. 

5 hours ago, GCBraun said:

Unfortunately that does not work well with add-on airports using custom mesh. XP terrain system is just outdated and needs a complete revamp. 

Nonsense