On 6/11/2025 at 12:25 PM, RNAVV19R said:

Anyone try the WinWing 737 Autopilot Panel with this to see if it works?

Yep I put it on another post but both CDU and MCP working...Its just fantastic. The APP/DEP is mapped wrong and you have to click CLB but I hav not had time to remap yet

4 hours ago, Tom Wright said:

Do you recommend the iFly 737MAX? I've been on the fence for a while but really missing a decent 737 in 2024 having previously had the PMDG 738. It does look rather good.

Stearmandriver highly recommends the IFly 737 Max.  Stearmandriver is a real life 737 pilot and I believe he flies the 737 Max in real life too. Now as a disclosure, Stearmandriver said he was helping to test the iFly 737 Max for MSFS 2024 before it was released for MSFS 2024, so he is likely a part of the iFly 737 Max testing team now.

However, my understanding is, Stearmandriver had no affiliation with iFly when the iFly 737 Max was released for MSFS 2020 last year.  He just bought the iFly 737 Max for himself, and came to the conclusion that it's a really, really, good rendition of the 737 Max.

Here is a video from Stearmandriver's testing of the iFly Max from 8 months ago, before he joined the iFly testing team so I hope this is more objective, because he wasn't affiliated with iFly at that time: https://www.twitch.tv/videos/2276560206?t=00h09m31s

And he has done more testing on the iFly Max in MSFS 2024 recently on his Twitch channel: https://www.twitch.tv/stearmandriver

 

Edited June 12, 2025Jun 12 by abrams_tank

This B737max has a very good potential, but I'm 70% satisfied because the flight and the engine modeling. It's very good at ils autoland, I don't like the wobbling in turbulence, it seems a glider, not a liner flying at 250/280kts. The engine envelope has something wrong as I saw in FS20: after 30.000ft, normally a turbofan jet engine decrease the power progressively as you can see with all other simulated airplanes, but this B737max is going from a normal 1200ft/min to about 1600/1800 ft/min at fl340 and above. I think that 2 normal turbofan engines pushing a full loaded liner doesn't have all that power near the max altitude/ceiling. The devs told me that this is due to the passage to mach, but I think that this has not nothing to do with the engine envelope, where near at max altitude the power drops drastically. In FS20 the green arc/banana was behaving strange because it was very far from the TOC, while the airplane was near TOC. Now in FS24 the TOC point oscillates to adapt to the green arc/banana, but the engine envelope is the same as before, probably wrong in my opinion.

I bought it! It's excellent, very pleased! The sounds are incredible.

Only thing on my short flight I thought was a bit odd was the landing, it seemed to need forward pressure during the flare to avoid a float/tailstrike. I would expect in ground effect for there to be an even slight nose down moment requiring back stick, like all other aircraft?

2 hours ago, abrams_tank said:

And he has done more testing on the iFly Max in MSFS 2024 recently on his Twitch channel:

And my first flight in the public release last night crashed to restart on approach to LAX 😂.  Nothing to do with the iFly though, I intentionally flew that trip with everything at ultra and photogrammetry on to see what my 3070 would do.  It actually did great, no stutters at all, until locking up on approach.  Oh well, I kind of expected it 😁.  But yeah, the iFly is behaving well in 24.  

2 hours ago, Claudius_ said:

The engine envelope has something wrong as I saw in FS20: after 30.000ft, normally a turbofan jet engine decrease the power progressively as you can see with all other simulated airplanes, but this B737max is going from a normal 1200ft/min to about 1600/1800 ft/min at fl340 and above. I think that 2 normal turbofan engines pushing a full loaded liner doesn't have all that power near the max altitude/ceiling. The devs told me that this is due to the passage to mach, but I think that this has not nothing to do with the engine envelope, where near at max altitude the power drops drastically. In FS20 the green arc/banana was behaving strange because it was very far from the TOC, while the airplane was near TOC. Now in FS24 the TOC point oscillates to adapt to the green arc/banana, but the engine envelope is the same as before, probably wrong in my opinion.

We've been through this.  I actually took a picture a while back of a 20+ mile difference between the green banana and top of climb in the real jet, remembering the conversation.  I'll include it.  I think you're a little too accustomed to sim aircraft where all the magic always works perfectly...

As far as engine performance, if you were measuring a thrust increase at altitude you'd have a point.  But I'm not sure how you expect to *not* see an increase in rate of climb when an aircraft pitches up in the transition from indicated airspeed to latching onto a mach number.  

Find it disappointing no Simbrief direct integration!

19 minutes ago, Torkermax said:

Find it disappointing no Simbrief direct integration!

??  There definitely is, I used it last night.  Route and winds uplink etc.

3 minutes ago, Stearmandriver said:

??  There definitely is, I used it last night.  Route and winds uplink etc.

Where to load flight plans from simbrief without downloading to FLTPLN folder thus direct? ACARS button non functional on FMC.

 

Edited June 12, 2025Jun 12 by Torkermax

2 minutes ago, Torkermax said:

Where to load flight plans from simbrief without downloading to FLTPLN folder thus direct? ACARS button non functional on FMC.

 

Add your SIM brief ID in the ACARS section of the tablet (one time action.). Then, requesting a route on RTE pg1 will return the current sim brief flight plan, and winds will also be available.  You don't download anything to any folders.

How is the system depth and fidelity on this. I am seriously considering picking this up this weekend but I want to be sure it checks some key boxes for me and system depth is one. Does it compare in depth and fidelity to the old PMDG NGs? I have heard conflicting statements about this.

4 minutes ago, Cognita said:

How is the system depth and fidelity on this. I am seriously considering picking this up this weekend but I want to be sure it checks some key boxes for me and system depth is one. Does it compare in depth and fidelity to the old PMDG NGs? I have heard conflicting statements about this.

Most real 737 pilots  that have flown it, said it is better than the PMDG. 

16 minutes ago, Cognita said:

How is the system depth and fidelity on this. I am seriously considering picking this up this weekend but I want to be sure it checks some key boxes for me and system depth is one. Does it compare in depth and fidelity to the old PMDG NGs? I have heard conflicting statements about this.

Still getting used to it but on par with PMDG I would say from what I've seen so far. A few little things it's done and I've thought "hmm, that's odd", only to Google it and find that sure enough the real 737MAX does it as well - an example is the spoiler deployment with flaps out and low power settings on final approach.

I can see why people (in the real world) complain about the 737 MAX. Especially from a cockpit ergonomics point of view. There's far less automation in the systems than say, an A320, or even the 777/787, and you think gosh why do I have to manually engage the generators or set the ILS frequencies in this day and age. But from a sim pilots point of view it's a nice balance between being a bit more involved than flying the Bus - there's more switches to flick and buttons to press at the various phases of flight to get it configured and set up - but still has nice avionics to make navigation easy.

The sounds though.. oh my goodness. Sorry PMDG, but the sounds in this are an absolute eargasm. That motoring sound during engine start as the LEAP-1Bs wind up to life *chef's kiss*

Edited June 12, 2025Jun 12 by Tom Wright

1 hour ago, Bobsk8 said:

Most real 737 pilots  that have flown it, said it is better than the PMDG. 

 

53 minutes ago, Tom Wright said:

Still getting used to it but on par with PMDG

Thank you both. After a recent disappointing purchase I am being a little more cautious now but it sounds like this is a go for me.

It’s really well done.  While I was looking forward to both the PMDG 737 and this MAX to make the leap to 2024, I’m happy the MAX was first.

So I downloaded and installed it to my MSFS 2024 hanger today. How do you set it up to  have it start up in Taxi ready mode similar to PMDG. I just want to program the FMC and go fly right now.