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"It's getting there"

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I am also in a state of absolutely enjoy of this MSFS2020/2024 .

Lately on my old PC with 4770K and a GTX1080TI i am having even better performance  in MSFS2024 than in MSFS2020 in DX12. Visually it might have somethin to do with the way TLOD is used in MSFS2024 but same settings MSFS2024 wins.

Flying about 50% 2020/2024 for now.

 

Flight simulation is great -but what do you feel about improvement to the flight physics as of today ?

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  • You must have been on a different forum than me. My memory is of this forum having an absolute cow, and yelling about FSX being an unplayable mess requiring non-existent alien supercomputers. I also r

  • I'm pretty happy now in MSFS 2024.  Almost everything works quite well, the world looks the part, and the flight models are improved from 2020.  We're starting to see more native 2024 addons.

  • I'm not waiting for it to get "there". The "here" is plenty good enough for me. Is it perfect? Of course not. It never will be. Nor does it have to be.

Currently sitting on a Max8 WestJet flight to Halifax, Nova Scotia. Fired up Msfs24 on my Samsung phone with Xbox controller on WiFi. Took a tour from the Halifax airport to Halifax to get my bearings for when we land and grab the rental car. 

I've always loved planes and everything about them, from a really young age. Then one day i heard about FS4 in 1989, i tried it out and was completely sold. I finally had the chance to learn things about planes, not from books but live (so to speak). I didn't know what flaps were, or any of the other wonderful things about planes, every minute i discovered things about this wonderful new world.
Now i can truly say that it never again felt as wonderful and magical as those early learning years...with any later sim. 

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MSI MPG Z490 Gaming Plus | Intel Core i9-10900K @ 5.3GHz | 64GB Corsair Vengeance | Gigabyte GeForce RTX 3090 | 500 GB M.2 NVMe for win | 2TB M.2 NVMe for FS2024 | TrackIr v5 | Honeycomb Alpha & Bravo | Thrustmaster Hotas Warthog

Eric from EHAM, a flying Dutchman.

 

2 hours ago, kerosene31 said:

Find what makes you happy.  Then, unplug from the community for a bit and sit back and enjoy the quiet.  

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Tony K.
 

Haven't bought 2024 yet and won't until I can get a 5090FE. Have stock watcher watching for me. It's nearly September and still virtually impossible to get an RTX 5090 FE

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3 hours ago, HiFlyer said:

You must have been on a different forum than me. My memory is of this forum having an absolute cow, and yelling about FSX being an unplayable mess requiring non-existent alien supercomputers. I also remember the yearslong slog of endless computer and graphics cards updates to try and get some acceptable performance, and all of us having to become systems level users to tweak the thing in any way suggested by the infinite eureka of the week posts by people claiming to have stumbled across the holy grail of smooth framerates.....

OP must have been in a different forum. I remember when FSX released there was nothing but complaining about performance and people rebuilding their systems trying to get good performance. Right now 2024 is running as well as possible with performance. With the jaw dropping textures and places to explore. I'm enjoying the word not allowed out of FS2024. I guess people think that flight simulator supposed to work great out of the box with great performance. But that has never been the case. Tweaking has always been the fun part of flight simulation for me. And when you achieve great results, is like achieving a great orgasm and then you/re ready for the next one. lol

Bill McIntyre

Asus StrixB650E-F Gamer, AMD Ryzen 9 7900X3D, Corsair Titanium DDR5 64GB, Samsung 990 PRO-4TB M.2, (4) 2TB SSD's, Corsair H1150i liquid cooler, RTX 2080TI Founders Edition, (2) LG 34" HD Curved Monitor, Sound Blaster Audigy X, 1Kw PC Power & Cooling Power Supply, Corsair Obsidian Full tower Case. MSFS 2024, WIN11 Pro x64                                                                                                                                             

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Bill McIntyre

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If stressing, mending and constantly editing .cfg with FSX was your jam, then hats off to you.  It was nothing but a PITA.

MSFS2024 is chefs kiss compared to those old clunkers we had to stick together every other day with snake oil fixes and other endless remedies.

Jase

4 hours ago, HiFlyer said:

You must have been on a different forum than me. My memory is of this forum having an absolute cow, and yelling about FSX being an unplayable mess requiring non-existent alien supercomputers. I also remember the yearslong slog of endless computer and graphics cards updates to try and get some acceptable performance, and all of us having to become systems level users to tweak the thing in any way suggested by the infinite eureka of the week posts by people claiming to have stumbled across the holy grail of smooth framerates.....

Truth be told, reading NickN's bible, optimizing FSX configuration files (eg. fsx.cfg) and fooling around with nVidia Inspector became a separate hobby for me from actually flying the darn thing. 🙂

Hardware: i7-8700k, GTX 1070-ti, 32GB ram, NVMe/SSD drives with lots of free space.
Software: latest Windows 10 Pro, P3Dv4.5+, FSX Steam, and lots of addons (100+ mostly Orbx stuff).

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4 hours ago, Langeveldt said:

I'm very happy with my MSFS 2020, my gaming laptop, my PMDG 737 and A Pilots Life V2 and SayIntentions..  I've spent days and days tweaking it to look good and run solidly.

I'd like to freeze it in time.  Even Nvidia updating their graphics drivers and me losing my frame gen mod caused me a whole lost weekend of reformatting, reinstalling, and upset, just trying to work out what had happened to my performance.  
 

Before an update, four ways to avoid lost weekends:

1. Create a system restore point
2. Do an image backup
3. Firewall the program, and
4. The quickest way - make your "disk" read-only (eg. Shadow Defender - the easiest PC/laptop security and privacy protection tool) - simply reboot and all changes magically disappear.

Hardware: i7-8700k, GTX 1070-ti, 32GB ram, NVMe/SSD drives with lots of free space.
Software: latest Windows 10 Pro, P3Dv4.5+, FSX Steam, and lots of addons (100+ mostly Orbx stuff).

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5 hours ago, MrFuzzy said:

Until a few years ago a videogame came out and we played it with peace of mind,

No, we didn't. Ever since the unholy marriage between flight simulation and the internet , folks have been complaining and ranting about every release. 

As for "getting there". It took, for example, Stalker or Cyberpunk 2077 years to "get there". 

I have to say that I enjoy 2024, and that’s all I have to say.

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3 hours ago, FBW737 said:

It's nearly September and still virtually impossible to get an RTX 5090 FE

Curious, why the FE?  Plenty of stock for other vendors like ASUS, PNY that perform better than the FE.  

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PNY is in my flight sim PC and the two ASUS are for another PC I'm building for Video/Audio editing (DaVinci Resolve/Fusion, Adobe Pr/Ae), 3DSMax, Topaz Video AI, some AI loads, and some Visual Studio 2022 coding, etc.

I use Thermal Grizzly WireView Pro to monitor and prevent cable's from melting if they get too hot.  If you get an FE, that's an odd angle connector which will not work ... Thermal Grizzly do make straight but not sure if that will work with an FE either ... I'm using a 90 for PNY and ASUS cards.

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I would NOT wait for an FE.

 

Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence. - Carl Sagan

This old times with FS2004 and FSX was just beautiful and fun, at this time,

but nowadays it is just another Sim world with superb Grafik, AC's with far more Details and realistic and to say, i never, never would go back in that old Sim world !!!

So lucky MSFS did that Sim start again after so many years of being away of that stuff and they did it right !

cheers 😉

08.2024 new PC is online :  ASUS ROG STRIX X670E-F GAMING WIFI Mainboard,  AMD Ryzen™ 9 7950X3D Prozessor, G.Skill DIMM 64 GB DDR5-6000 (2x 32 GB) Dual-Kit, MSI GeForce RTX 4090 VENTUS 3X E 24G OC Grafikkarte, 2x WD Black SN850X NVMe SSD 4 TB - Drive C+D, WD Gold Enterprise Class 12 TB for storage  HDD, Thermaltake Toughpower GF3 1000W PC - Power supply, Thermalright Phantom Spirit 120 EVO CPU Aircooler with 7 Heatpipes, Design Meshify 2 White TG Clear Tint Tower-Case, 3x 4K monitors 2x32 Samsung 1x27 LG  3840x2160, Windows11 Prof. 23H2 - now Windows11 Prof. 25H2

Flightsimulator Hardware: Honeycomb Throttle Bravo, Logitech Extreme 3D Pro, Logitech Flight Joke System, XBox Controller, some Thrustmaster stuff, Winwing CDU Panels.

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9 hours ago, jwhak said:

Can you see ai-traffic yet? Sure the heck don't wanna get involved with the mob on multiplayer.

A couple of planes each flight, almost no contrails... I switched back to MSFS + FSLTL a few weeks ago.

7 hours ago, kerosene31 said:

(that's another thing I notice, people complain about beta testing software, then literally sign up to beta test updates).  

One tip (and to quote the great Ringo Starr "I say this with peace and love"), is to unplug from the negativty for awhile.  

With modern always online gaming, there's another feature - "always online complaining".  The negativity is so prevalent in any community.  Video games, TV shows, etc.  It is exhausting.  

Were things better in the "good old days" or was there just less ways to connect with people and the negativity?  Negativity is just human nature, and every community I know has far too much of it.  I'm not sure how to fix it, but I'm always aware of it.

Find what makes you happy.  Then, unplug from the community for a bit and sit back and enjoy the quiet.  

This is very true, the point is that one recurs to the community also to find fixes for thigs that don't work in the sim... 90% of the times only to feed negativity, because the truth is that only Asobo can fix it (maybe). The same stands for beta testing. Many people jump into the beta versions out of frustration for the "stable" ones. 

7 hours ago, Michael Moe said:

I am also in a state of absolutely enjoy of this MSFS2020/2024 .

Lately on my old PC with 4770K and a GTX1080TI i am having even better performance  in MSFS2024 than in MSFS2020 in DX12. Visually it might have somethin to do with the way TLOD is used in MSFS2024 but same settings MSFS2024 wins.

Flying about 50% 2020/2024 for now.

 

Flight simulation is great -but what do you feel about improvement to the flight physics as of today ?

Michael Moe

I wasn't denying the improvements from every point of view, it's just that the "constant development" pollutes the experience in some way... 

I don't know how to explain it better, but if I know that something is still being worked on, in some way I can't enjoy it fully as part of me is always waiting for the next update. I am sure that I am not the only one affected.

Maybe I just need some time off the forums 🙂

3 hours ago, Ricardo41 said:

No, we didn't. Ever since the unholy marriage between flight simulation and the internet , folks have been complaining and ranting about every release. 

As for "getting there". It took, for example, Stalker or Cyberpunk 2077 years to "get there". 

Yes, that's the point... also these two games belong to the new Internet era.

I was referring to older games, from the time you walked to the shop and came out with a colorful fragrant box :')

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