The H135 is a pile.

Basic navigation using GPS as nav source - the CDI needle doesn't deviate in the correct direction - it's actually just stuck lol. 

The exterior sounds are laughable at best.

The flight model....yeah...no.

When will they hire a team to do a decent aircraft?  Aside from Mike Johnson's Albatross, the TBM930, CJ4, and C700 Longitude, most of the default planes are awful.

I'm usually pretty positive... but literally they allowed Nemeth to give them a product that just wastes space on my drive.  I suppose its in the cloud now, so wasting server space lol.

16 minutes ago, AnkH said:

Tbh he has a valid point. They use resources for those CU anyway, they add handcrafted POIs etc. but editing out at least those bridges within the PG cities is too much to ask? How long does it take a skilled dev? 10min per bridge? 

It’s likely quite a bit more involved than that. 

I haven’t looked in awhile, but bridges seem to be essentially a land form. 

to replace them would mean eliminating the autogen, flattening it out, drawing in the water, and then finding/assigning a suitable 3D model. 

and considering that many bridges are custom architecture, I’m not quite sure how well autogen would be received, at least for the more notable structures. 

Even as an avid helicopter pilot I’d rate this “issue” VERY low. 

IMHO, better water masking and underwater textures are far more noticeable and beneficial, and will benefit every flyer, not just the ones who want to fly under bridges. 

46 minutes ago, ryanbatc said:

The H135 is a pile.

Basic navigation using GPS as nav source - the CDI needle doesn't deviate in the correct direction - it's actually just stuck lol. 

The exterior sounds are laughable at best.

The flight model....yeah...no.

When will they hire a team to do a decent aircraft?  Aside from Mike Johnson's Albatross, the TBM930, CJ4, and C700 Longitude, most of the default planes are awful.

I'm usually pretty positive... but literally they allowed Nemeth to give them a product that just wastes space on my drive.  I suppose its in the cloud now, so wasting server space lol.

I completely agree with you, It's the worst!, the Torque doesn't move above 60%, the TOT is fixed and low, the sound when you move the pedals are awful, the limited movement of pedals, the flight dynamics...etc, but what would you expect coming from Nemeth Designs?

 

2 hours ago, Farlis said:

No you are not. You need SU3.

I guess I didn’t get the memo.  Is SU3 officially released already?

6 hours ago, Christopher Low said:

You may not be affected by them, but they are a deal breaker for me. I really do think that the time should be spent to "manually edit them out".

That will be quite a job. There are estimated to be more than 5 million bridges on earth......

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Tbh he has a valid point. They use resources for those CU anyway, they add handcrafted POIs etc. but editing out at least those bridges within the PG cities is too much to ask? How long does it take a skilled dev? 10min per bridge? 

Well, at ten minutes per bridge, we're talking about approximately ten years of continuous labor, with no nap-naps or sleepy time....

Edited August 21, 2025Aug 21 by HiFlyer

41 minutes ago, kholt said:

I guess I didn’t get the memo.  Is SU3 officially released already?

Yes.

3 hours ago, ryanbatc said:

The H135 is a pile.

Go ahead, alpha testing at its best!

Edited August 21, 2025Aug 21 by edpatino

Didn't take long for a post letting us know about the new City Update and 135 to become a bellyache about the sim.

FFS - can't you all just enjoy what you've got for at least a day?

Jase

16 hours ago, Christopher Low said:

I really do think that the time should be spent to "manually edit them out".

and then came GamesCon/Cologne deadline. to release CityUpdate or not to release, that was here the question.

they should just have asked GamesCon  (worlds largest Gaming event, 1.500 exhibitors from 72 countries) to be rescheduled until MSFS has finished their bridges. 

thousands of real german bridges are in a desolate status anyway, no flying underneath anymore.

On September 11, 2024, at about 0300 hours in the morning, two spans of the Carola Bridge over the Elbe river in Dresden/Saxony collapsed. A light-rail train had just gone by, but it was past and clear of the span, and no one was injured in the collapse.

 

 

 

City update Germany: as real as it gets.

 

https://www.dw.com/en/germanys-autobahn-bridges-falling-apart/a-69439952#:~:text=As many as 5,000 bridges along Germany's autobahns,the Moseltal bridge made for an unusual sight.

Edited August 21, 2025Aug 21 by turbomax

1 hour ago, MassiveSim32 said:

FFS - can't you all just enjoy what you've got for at least a day?

Well, there will always be those who are happy with mediocre quality and total rubbish, otherwise half of the products worldwide couldnt be sold anymore, no? I personally look for high quality in things I buy, I am also ready to pay more if quality is better but what MS/Asobo sometimes deliver has NOTHING to do with high quality. And yes, I think we have to put the finger on it and name it for what it is. Otherwise you indirectly tell the devs that it is totally ok to release stuff in such a state. It is not. 

34 minutes ago, AnkH said:

mediocre quality and total rubbish

which game exactly are you referring to? 🤣

10 minutes ago, turbomax said:

which game exactly are you referring to? 🤣

Not a/the full game, some of the WU and some of the CU and certainly more than one default aircraft in MSFS2024, be it released at the beginning or as a local legend later on. 

The sim as whole is perfectly ok for me and the only flight sim for civil airplanes I currently use. 

14 hours ago, HiFlyer said:

That will be quite a job. There are estimated to be more than 5 million bridges on earth......

...but photogrammetry / TIN covers only a tiny fraction of the earth's surface.

If the manual work is too much (and I'm not sure it's actually that much work), it should be possible to come up with an automated heuristic that gives better-looking results than what we have right now.

2 hours ago, martinboehme said:

...but photogrammetry / TIN covers only a tiny fraction of the earth's surface.

If the manual work is too much (and I'm not sure it's actually that much work), it should be possible to come up with an automated heuristic that gives better-looking results than what we have right now.

Whatever happened to the “crisis” of Amazon-like tree heights…?

now we’re hyper concerned about bridges which are already represented in the sim…? 😂

 

Bridges that look like dams!! Come on, guys. Surely you do not see that as realistic?