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v7 in Unreal?

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I think LMs thinking when first offering P3D to the public was to interest potentially talented young people in aviation, fostering a crop of engineers, pilots, executives and other professionals the company could choose from in the future as well as a bit of brand recognition.

We in home entertainment hobbyists and developers just benefited.

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14 hours ago, SayAgain said:

That’s interesting, 7 pages into this thread with regular posts and this thread doesn’t appear in the AVSIM home page Recent Topics section?

Exactly, noticed that too.

P3D fuse as it is called is not aimed/targeted at individual/civilian users, in fact to me this looks like more targeted towards military operations. After all LM's original P3D was also aimed at military/training market. It just so happened that hobbyist and flight simmers at the time had no alternatives other then 32 bit FSX, So LM's 64 bit version of sim made it possible for developers to develop complex addons which was used by both flight simmers/hobbyists and training organisations. In case of Fuse - from what I can see is completely aimed at military training organisations meeting individual training needs. 

Now it is completely different picture - even if LM releases civilian version of new sim, I do not think developers and flight simmers/hobbyists will return back to P3D. Mind you the development costs for P3D are also higher so any software developers would think 3-4 times before investing time and resources into this. However I don't think LM would bring this into civilian market, P3D V6 is good example where they might have received good feedback and appreciation from training/military organisations, It certainly did not motivate enough flight simmers to return. Hence why we never saw any developers either update or develop new products for V6.  

A longer video has been released. Looks pretty much like old P3D to me.

 

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Although the taglines in the middle also say "for those who sim together".... so who knows...

If its available I might pick it up just for a play, depending on price.  But I'll let others jump in first and give some indication about how much (if anything) is compatible....

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9 hours ago, kevinfirth said:

Some initial observations...

So you installed and have used Prepar3D FUSE?  If not, what are you observing?

I’m not sure why the focus seems to be a fear of MSFS being replaced or it’s relevance to what LM have released?

I’m interested in the technology side of what Prepar3D FUSE might offer and any revenue potential it might present itself for military/government contracts just like it did before with CAE and some work I did with them.  I know what Blackshark.ai can do, I know what UE5 can do, I know what tools are available for UE5, very interested in what Prepar3D FUSE can do.  

I know a few 3rd party developers that might be interested in doing products for P3D FUSE … these contracts are more lucrative than developing for entertainment users and considerably less support.

 

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Just now, SayAgain said:

So you installed and have used Prepar3D FUSE?  If not, what are you observing?

I’m not sure why the focus seems to be a fear of MSFS being replaced or it’s relevance to what LM have released?

I’m interested in the technology side of what Prepar3D FUSE might offer and any revenue potential it might present itself for military/government contracts just like it did before with CAE and some work I did with them.  I know what Blackshark.ai can do, I know what UE5 can do, I know what tools are available for UE5, very interested in what Prepar3D FUSE can do.  

I know a few 3rd party developers that might be interested in doing products for P3D FUSE … these contracts are more lucrative than developing for entertainment users and considerably less support.

 

Observations on the limited youtube content and info titbits that have surfaced so far.

I not in fear of it replacing anything, happy to have a look at it, just don't see it becoming a basis for entertainment simming (on info available to me right now)

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2 minutes ago, SayAgain said:

I know a few 3rd party developers that might be interested in doing products for P3D FUSE

I am aware of at least one too, I absolutely don't discount that it might have applications other than entertainment simming. 

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7 minutes ago, kevinfirth said:

just don't see it becoming a basis for entertainment simming

Ok, but was that never LM’s intent so not really sure why MSFS is relevant?  Has P3D never tried to work on consoles?  USAF was the primary focus and revenue source for P3D V1-6 and not the entertainment folks.   Many of us went the P3DV3-6 route because there was nothing else other than XP and P3D offered a compatibility path from FSX.

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1 hour ago, SayAgain said:

but was that never LM’s intent so not really sure why MSFS is relevant?

I specifically didn't reference any particular simulator 🤭

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1 hour ago, SayAgain said:

USAF was the primary focus and revenue source for P3D V1-6 and not the entertainment folks.

Sure but we got to play anyway..

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5 hours ago, CAP1234 said:

P3D fuse as it is called is not aimed/targeted at individual/civilian users, in fact to me this looks like more targeted towards military operations. After all LM's original P3D was also aimed at military/training market. It just so happened that hobbyist and flight simmers at the time had no alternatives other then 32 bit FSX, So LM's 64 bit version of sim made it possible for developers to develop complex addons which was used by both flight simmers/hobbyists and training organisations. In case of Fuse - from what I can see is completely aimed at military training organisations meeting individual training needs. 

Now it is completely different picture - even if LM releases civilian version of new sim, I do not think developers and flight simmers/hobbyists will return back to P3D. Mind you the development costs for P3D are also higher so any software developers would think 3-4 times before investing time and resources into this. However I don't think LM would bring this into civilian market, P3D V6 is good example where they might have received good feedback and appreciation from training/military organisations, It certainly did not motivate enough flight simmers to return. Hence why we never saw any developers either update or develop new products for V6.  

Yes, it's mil/com focused, always has been.

we've got to keep in mind that Fuse isn't P3D v7, it's P3D Fuse v1.

What LM have pulled off here, though, is that Fuse blends enough P3D code in that it's relatively straightforward to port P3D addons to the sim (they reference this in several places). So i'm not sure the development costs are higher than for MSFS, and probably certainly not for devs who already have P3D addons.

And there are presently an extremely limited set of airports (about 1000(!)), and most of them seem to be military, according to the video.

None of that should be taken to mean that people would leave MSFS for P3D, etc. But just as with DCS World and Falcon BMS, there are a group of folks who are interested in what Fuse apparently has to offer.

It might all be academic (pun intended), though, as LM haven't indicated that Fuse will be available to consumers now or in the future.

What i've seen so far is interesting enough that i'd be willing to give it a spin, as it's not that expensive.

2 hours ago, UrgentSiesta said:

What LM have pulled off here, though, is that Fuse blends enough P3D code in that it's relatively straightforward to port P3D addons to the sim (they reference this in several places)

I hope you're right about that.  If I could port my P3D planes over to P3DFuse that would be huge.

I think the statement about 1,000 airports was in reference to "detailed areas" around those particular airports, not that there are only 1,000 airports total in the sim.

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Will it include supposed drug smugglers from Venezuela? 🙂

2 hours ago, Torkermax said:

Will it include supposed drug smugglers from Venezuela? 🙂

One of the tutorial missions.

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