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MSFS 2024 : Problem with Fenix

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Hi folks, I’m currently trying my luck with MSFS 2024. At the moment I’m flying the Fenix in MSFS 2020 and have no problems at all. I also flew the Fenix in MSFS 2024 about six months ago and it worked fine back then.
Now I haven’t used MSFS 2024 since before SU4. After reading that SU4 works very well, I tried the Fenix again yesterday. Up to the runway everything was fine.
Then I lined up on the runway and applied thrust. The first thing that happened was that the aircraft pulled completely to the right.
On the first attempt I tried to keep the aircraft on the centerline, but somehow I didn’t get proper thrust and couldn’t really fly properly.
I was able to reproduce this three times. Yesterday I even completely reinstalled MSFS 2024 and the Fenix — and afterwards I had exactly the same problem. Unfortunately, I don’t really understand where the problem is. I then started MSFS 2020 and there everything worked without any issues.
Do you have any tips for me?
 


 

I couldn't see properly but it behaved like you had asymmetric thrust?

David Porrett

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That was also my first thought… but both are running synchronously.

I also notice that when I apply thrust, it takes a very long time before it actually starts moving.
Something is definitely not right… because it also does not react to my parking brake.

I really can’t understand where the problem is… especially since I reinstalled MSFS 2024 and the Fenix from scratch.

I thought it might be related to SPAD.next, because I handle all bindings through that software… but I disabled SPAD.next and it’s still exactly the same.

In MSFS 2020 everything works without any problems.

check your rudder bindings in 2024.

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Ok, I can check that.

But still, the whole situation is very strange… even if my rudder settings are not correct, why does the parking brake not respond?

Overall, I also find the thrust behavior very strange… it almost takes 5–6 seconds before there is finally any thrust.

Just now, RAMMSTEIN1977 said:

But still, the whole situation is very strange… even if my rudder settings are not correct, why does the parking brake not respond?

Since you are using Spad, I'll ask the obvious question: Your MSFS24 profile for all planes is completely devoid of any bindings and is blank?

FWIW, I find when things don’t behave as expected or don’t make sense a reinstall of the offending aircraft sometimes helps or resolves.  YMMV. TANSTAAFL. Blue skies,

-B

You should go through all your bindings in MS2024 settings a delete what the sim may have auto assigned to your controls.

Bill McIntyre

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This is a known glitch.  It happens to me with both Fenix and Inibuilds.  Google it.

1 hour ago, Lon Duncombe said:

This is a known glitch.  It happens to me with both Fenix and Inibuilds.  Google it.

You may be correct, but I never experience any of those behaviors with any of those aircraft. Maybe he should submit a support ticket to the developer. They're very good at replying back to their customers.

Bill McIntyre

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Your thrust was definitely symmetrical so the engines aren't the issue 👍

That definitely looked like a tiller or rudder issue.  It looks like your dead zone or centre point for the rudder or tiller axis is offset.  

When you go into the Controls   settings page, have you tried clicking on the small 'gear / cog' next to the name of each hardware controller, where you can adjust sensitivities / dead zones etc?

I've had something like this before and going into the 'USB Controllers' properties in Win 11, and hitting 'Reset to default' for each of my hardware fixed it.   (Unlikely if it's working ok with 2020 but worth a try).

Bill 😎
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Okay, I will check all settings in MSFS 2024 shortly.

What still really puzzles me is why the parking brake does not respond. Even if the rudder settings were incorrect, the parking brake should still work. For this reason, I believe that something is fundamentally wrong.

Yes, I have reinstalled both MSFS 2024 and the Fenix.

About six months ago, I flew several flights with MSFS 2024 and the Fenix, and back then there were no issues at all.



EDIT: 

I have now recorded another video to show how the parking brake reacts — basically not at all. It also does not respond to braking.

Even without any bindings, you can see that I activated the parking brake directly in the aircraft.

 

 

Edited by RAMMSTEIN1977

Have you tried with nothing else in your community folder except the Fenix? 
 

sometimes there are issues when a random addon interacts in a strange way with another one. Like a taxi way sign addon causing a plane to CTD.  
 

Eliminate this possibility by keeping just the Fenix and see? 

9800X3d, 4090, 64 GB DDR5 6000 RAM, 4 TB NVME (2x2), 4K Ultra + Framegen

Do you have an Xbox controller attached at all? 
 

I found the Xbox controller was causing issues, go into your controls, select your controller and then check parking brake. If there is anything bound to it, then delete it. 
 

I recently did a fresh install of MS24 and that was the issue for me, similar responses from the aircraft. It was actually all aircraft not just Fenix. 

Let me know if that fixed it!
 

 

Anthony Milner

6 hours ago, btacon said:

FWIW, I find when things don’t behave as expected or don’t make sense a reinstall of the offending aircraft sometimes helps or resolves.  YMMV. TANSTAAFL. Blue skies,

-B

My aging brain struggles with the new acronyms in the English language now. FWiW I surmised is "for what it's worth" (yay), YMMV had me checking Aussie airports but eventually realised that it's actually "your mileage may vary". So far so good.
TANSTAAFL has me beat.

Please clarify?

Cheers.

Edited by speedyTC

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