1 minute ago, jrw4 said:

I haven't seen anything like this. Otherwise empty community folder? Turbulence setting? PMDG support ticket?

Best wishes.

It is a new install Windows 11 and 2024. I'm going to do a flight here shortly and uninstall Chasplane first, and see if it makes a difference. I'll also adjust the turbulence setting and report back.

I would never be able to live with that. I only conduct very short flights at low level, so maybe I am immune to these effects 

26 minutes ago, Christopher Low said:

I would never be able to live with that. I only conduct very short flights at low level, so maybe I am immune to these effects 

100%. Unfortunately, PMDG has left this problem unaddressed since MSFS2020 ported over the MSFS2024, with strong winds, especially on the 737s, less pronounced on the 777. That's what you get when you're concerned with high-fidelity cookies and a sandwich rather than correct flight dynamics. 

38 minutes ago, LRBS said:

100%. Unfortunately, PMDG has left this problem unaddressed since MSFS2020 ported over the MSFS2024, with strong winds, especially on the 737s, less pronounced on the 777. That's what you get when you're concerned with high-fidelity cookies and a sandwich rather than correct flight dynamics. 

I am curious of your source for the 2020 version being ported over to 2024. TIA.

Would it be more productive to share these issues with PMDG?

I got the JF F28 this week (also a complex a/c rendition) for my MSFS2024 for the first time, which a/c was also already available in MSFS2020.

I find the descriptions of their updates to MSFS2024 (from the respective developers and on-line sources), near identical between the B737 and F28.

i.e., each product was specifically and significantly upgraded; natively built for the 2024 platform (whatever that exactly means), to take advantage of the new simulation features.

How much of actual enhancements to the flight dynamics was introduced in the process, is another matter…

Update. I uninstalled Chasplane and did a flight from Denver to Tucson. The upper-level winds were not as bad as they were, and I think someone mentioned in an earlier post about higher winds can cause oscillation. This flight, there was no wobble or oscillation. See the video below. I guess now I need to re-install the Chasplane. Do another flight where the winds were not that high to see if I can narrow it down. 

https://share.icloud.com/photos/01eBUpedZdhOdPW-pQNBI6tag

I didn't notice this until after I took the video, but it actually was on a 4x cruise by accident. But when I stopped it, the oscillation was still gone. 

 

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14 hours ago, cchiozza said:

Is the wobble on the pmdg b737 at cruise and decent on purpose or is this asobo? I am running chaseplane...

After watching your video I can say my -800 doesn't do that....and I don't have Chaseplane.

 

You can also disable or reduce motion effects in Chaseplane settings

Disregard please

Edited December 27, 2025Dec 27 by SN737

34 minutes ago, cchiozza said:

Update. I uninstalled Chasplane and did a flight from Denver to Tucson. The upper-level winds were not as bad as they were, and I think someone mentioned in an earlier post about higher winds can cause oscillation. This flight, there was no wobble or oscillation. See the video below. I guess now I need to re-install the Chasplane. Do another flight where the winds were not that high to see if I can narrow it down. 

https://share.icloud.com/photos/01eBUpedZdhOdPW-pQNBI6tag

I didn't notice this until after I took the video, but it actually was on a 4x cruise by accident. But when I stopped it, the oscillation was still gone. 

 

On my setup this is definitely a chaseplane issue. The way around it is to set the camera setting to "rigid" so it wouldn't wobble about as much and open a ticket with parallel 42 so they can try and tackle that issue 

2 hours ago, kc135r.fox said:

Would it be more productive to share these issues with PMDG?

Absolutely, it was reported as with the previous version; it is not fixed. 

The same known problems brought over (ported) from MSFS2020 to 2024 are clearly visible and not fixed. Anyone with system knowledge and experience with a previous version of the 737 in MS2020 will spot these bugs. The unfortunate thing is that they don't care anymore as they did before. Now it's all about how much they can get away with versus an excellent product they were known for. Very disappointing.

4 hours ago, kc135r.fox said:

Would it be more productive to share these issues with PMDG?

From my personal experience, no.  I probably wasted ten hours of my life over the years creating detailed tickets supported by documentation, for errors and missing features.  It's unfortunate, but they really do not seem to care about information that comes from outside their own world at all.  

I’m no RW pilot like some of the folks commenting here, but I have used the NG since day 1 (like many of us here).

I have a feeling that if something (based on external input and feedback) has not been acted on (and incorporated into the product) so far, over the years, is not likely to happen now in a hurry…

I have exactly the same wobble as in the video. I don't own chase plane. In last flight at cruise that was only a 9 kt crosswind so shouldn't be caused by that. I owned the 2020 version and don't remember the plane swaying like this one does.

3 hours ago, LRBS said:

Absolutely, it was reported as with the previous version; it is not fixed. 

The same known problems brought over (ported) from MSFS2020 to 2024 are clearly visible and not fixed. Anyone with system knowledge and experience with a previous version of the 737 in MS2020 will spot these bugs. The unfortunate thing is that they don't care anymore as they did before. Now it's all about how much they can get away with versus an excellent product they were known for. Very disappointing.

They have been reusing core systems code for a long time. I would even begin to think they may have lost the in-house expertise to correctly change this, and so they just let it ride. Technical debt coming back to bite them.