Why is it that I can depart a larger airport with heavier traffic and taxing around and departure seems pretty smooth. But when I land at any airport even smaller ones with less traffic taxing around after the landing there's always panning stutters and micro stutters everywhere. There is less things to load, the airport is smaller, there's less traffic but no matter what and I've seen this from many people with Microsoft Flight simulator once you land it's not very smooth no matter what. Why Asobo?

19 minutes ago, Bill A said:

Why is it that I can depart a larger airport with heavier traffic and taxing around and departure seems pretty smooth. But when I land at any airport even smaller ones with less traffic taxing around after the landing there's always panning stutters and micro stutters everywhere. There is less things to load, the airport is smaller, there's less traffic but no matter what and I've seen this from many people with Microsoft Flight simulator once you land it's not very smooth no matter what. Why Asobo?

Have you removed all addons and then tried? It can be (and is) perfectly smooth for many people, including me. I would try this

1. Delete all caches
2. Empty Community Folder
3. Make sure any programs like AutoFPS etc are not running - no background stuff at all. 

Then try and see how you get along. 

22 minutes ago, Bill A said:

Why is it that I can depart a larger airport with heavier traffic and taxing around and departure seems pretty smooth. But when I land at any airport even smaller ones with less traffic taxing around after the landing there's always panning stutters and micro stutters everywhere. There is less things to load, the airport is smaller, there's less traffic but no matter what and I've seen this from many people with Microsoft Flight simulator once you land it's not very smooth no matter what. Why Asobo?

These types of issues will change from scenario to scenario and over time IME.  Today I had some modest stutters and turned out it was BATC causing this ultimately, so killed it, ran FSLTL's injector and all remained fine.  When SU4 debuted for many flights I was essentially completely stutter-free from start thru finish.  That began to be less the case over time, whereupon I did the R&R of the GPU driver/caches/etc and resumed stutter-free once again.   I think it's a mistake to tag Asobo as responsible for this there are myriad other factors that can play a role.  If you're routinely experiencing this something is very different from my exact configuration.

You're right about beyond ATC, that does contribute quite a bit with performance. When I disable it, it's pretty smooth. I'll have to experiment and see if that might be the issue.

6 minutes ago, Bill A said:

You're right about beyond ATC, that does contribute quite a bit with performance. When I disable it, it's pretty smooth. I'll have to experiment and see if that might be the issue.

It’s basically any program that can modify the running sim that may cause this. If you get this a lot, just drop to a bare MSFS install with no third party stuff and see if that removes the issue. 
 

If it does, then you begin the tedious task of finding which one does it. This is why I now try and keep my sim minimalistic (as possible). 

I never had these same issues in the beta. Once SU4 was released, here came the stutters. It may not be the same for everyone. I do think as soon as the next beta comes, my stuttering issues will end. Not that the beta itself will fix them. Getting off the main public servers and onto the privileged few beta fans servers will do it, I think. 

8 hours ago, Bill A said:

You're right about beyond ATC, that does contribute quite a bit with performance. When I disable it, it's pretty smooth. I'll have to experiment and see if that might be the issue.

I had the same issues as you with stutters, especially after landing. These have plagued me since SU2 beta 1.14xxx, right through SU3. They were temporarily cured in early SU4 betas but came back in the later beta releases.

As I was one of the few that suffered this problem, I drilled down on my system settings and even re-installed Win 11 and MS2024.

This is what made the difference for me, and it was simple in the end.... I turned off G-sync compatability in NVidia control panel and set Vsync on. (All within NVidia control panel, you can't disable the G-Sync 'compatibilty' in the NVidia app).

My monitor is a 60Hz 4K 32" BenQ monitor, so in the sim graphics settings, I temporarily set Frame Gen to none, that allows you then to turn off V-sync and select half refresh rate.

When Frame gen is re-enabled, the V-sync and refresh rate settings stick but grey out. My system can easily maintain a raw frame rate of 30 FPS, so it's smooth at 60 with frame gen x2.

All my other graphics settings are mainly Ultra, apart from traffic and texture resolution, which are set to high.

Hey Presto, much of the micro stutters are gone.

Is it stutter free? No, I have stutters when looking up from the pedestal to an outside view, but this will have to be cured by Asobo, as it appears to be a scenery loading issue.

And as far as BATC, yes, it is a frame rate hog if you choose to have it handle traffic, even with settings lowered it is unusable at big airports for me.

Hope this helps

Stu

Edited December 29, 2025Dec 29 by Bunchy

8 hours ago, Bill A said:

Why is it that I can depart a larger airport with heavier traffic and taxing around and departure seems pretty smooth. But when I land at any airport even smaller ones with less traffic taxing around after the landing there's always panning stutters and micro stutters everywhere. There is less things to load, the airport is smaller, there's less traffic but no matter what and I've seen this from many people with Microsoft Flight simulator once you land it's not very smooth no matter what. Why Asobo?

I got this a lot with SU3 (taxi, take off, landing/taxi) and it was single digit FPS bad, then SU4 came along and it was vastly improved proving that it was an Asobo issue all along. During the beta I still noticed it though albeit not as bad, using VR it's hard to not notice it. 

I then got a GPU upgrade which of course helped massively in a general performance way, but since SU4s release I still have noticed very very minor stutters and performance drops when on the ground at times and for no reason whatsoever. Not enough to be a worry to me personally, but enough to suggest that Asobo still have work to do in this area with regards to optimisation.

When MS and Asobo decided to stream the whole sim, that's when performance went downhill. I strongly believe a lot of the issues we are having with the official releases has to do with their servers not keeping up.

When in beta, performance was stellar, once I opted-out when SU4 was released, performance went downhill, same drivers, same add-ons, etc. 

MS/Asobo, if you are reading this forum, just give us the ability to decide if to stream or download the whole sim.

I have found only the solution to this myself on an i9 5090 machine...

 

turn OFF ALL LIVE TRAFFIC PERIOD

TEXTURE RES MEDIUM

MAYBE FAUNA....

 

done.

5 hours ago, CarlosF said:

When MS and Asobo decided to stream the whole sim, that's when performance went downhill. I strongly believe a lot of the issues we are having with the official releases has to do with their servers not keeping up.

When in beta, performance was stellar, once I opted-out when SU4 was released, performance went downhill, same drivers, same add-ons, etc. 

MS/Asobo, if you are reading this forum, just give us the ability to decide if to stream or download the whole sim.

In your library settings you can download the whole sim and purchased add ons, maybe some 500gb I think, I'm planning to download the whole sim to see if that can add some cure to those micro stutters because the 100% cure is not there yet.

1 hour ago, JETPETER2 said:

I have found only the solution to this myself on an i9 5090 machine...

 

turn OFF ALL LIVE TRAFFIC PERIOD

TEXTURE RES MEDIUM

MAYBE FAUNA....

 

done.

Wow! and you have one heck of machine, I'm more severe with my settings in my modest i9 11900k with rtx4090.

All this for something that is a sim issue that has never been fixed.  

I have this issue with some add ons and no issue with another. I tend to think it could be sim issue that  either triggered by addon or certain MSFS API that causing it

14 hours ago, CarlosF said:

When MS and Asobo decided to stream the whole sim, that's when performance went downhill. I strongly believe a lot of the issues we are having with the official releases has to do with their servers not keeping up.

When SU4 installed performance here became essentially perfect:  exquisitely smooth animation everywhere, incredibly crisp graphics, with only a rare stutter on the order of 1-3 per 2h flight.  And again, it could be other sofware using Simconnect or what have you.  I use BATC and SLC and both can tax.  I think server capacity is a factor when things go less than essentially perfect, and I see it manisfest when frame rate goes down despite big time GPU/VRAM/CPU headroom.