Which includes turn signals, yes, on Formula One cars.

Not to mention much more reliance on electrical power.

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Edited January 14Jan 14 by martin-w

Definitely looking forward to this. I wasn't a big fan of the ground effect era 2022-2025.

3 hours ago, martin-w said:

Which includes turn signals, yes, on Formula One cars.

That would kill the Switcheroo overtake technique😂

EDIT: I read further about that, and they are not precisely for indicating turns, but indicating damaged/out-of-control cars (like the lights they already have in the rear wing).

Regarding smaller weight and size, I'm actually underwhelmed. I was hoping to get back to the early 2000's wheelbase (3000 mm/120 in or lower). Those cars of now, with the footprint of a Tahoe Suburban...try racing them in circuit as narrow as Monaco and then ask why there are almost no overtakes. I mean, these changes are in the right direction, but I feel they are not enough.

Edited January 14Jan 14 by Luis Hernandez

I keep hearing mixed things about the new regulations.  Hopefully the racing action is good.  I'm skeptical though.  They can say smaller and lighter cars, but I don't think it is a big difference.  I think only a couple of centimeters.  The cars are still huge.  

The thing is, the best years are the later years in the regulations where most cars are competitive.  That's when we're most likely to have championships coming down to the final races like last year.  With new regs, usually the big money teams dominate for a time until everyone figures it out (although a big game can always have a bad car).  

 

 

37 minutes ago, kerosene31 said:

I think only a couple of centimeters.  The cars are still huge.

200 mm (8 in) shorter, 100 mm (4 in) narrower. So we'll go from the footprint of a Suburban to a Traverse. Yep, still huge. This image will explain it better:

 

The problem is this has no benefit for road cars. The MGU is so powerful 50% it`s dangerous to humans, it must be contained in it`s own compartment that can be instantly isolated remotely for safety. a live care called kill a marshal.

This is shown by a light above the driver red live danger green safe. There are now talks going on that could see electric power removed in future due to cost. and renewable fuels and combustion engines return.

1 hour ago, G-RFRY said:

The problem is this has no benefit for road cars. The MGU is so powerful 50% it`s dangerous to humans, it must be contained in it`s own compartment that can be instantly isolated remotely for safety. a live care called kill a marshal.

This is shown by a light above the driver red live danger green safe. There are now talks going on that could see electric power removed in future due to cost. and renewable fuels and combustion engines return.

 

Forgive me if I dont know what im talking about but isn't the MGU being removed for 2026? 

Combustion engines return? For the new season its 50% combustion engine and 50% electric, so combustion doesn't need to return, its still in F1, so do you mean 100% combustion? Also, for 2026 they are using renewable fuels.

I'd be suprised if they move in the oposite direction and abandon the hybrid tech.

Again, I know little about F1, so apologies if Im confused

 

Not exactly: the engines remain almost the same, but the power mix is now the 50% combustion-50% electric you see. I don't remember how was the power balance before, but I understand it was more combustion, less electric. I'm now looking into the next rule set.

From time to time, one of the drivers will pass another car... In Nascar there are sometimes 2 or 3 passes somewhere in the field on every lap.

4 hours ago, Fielder said:

In Nascar there are sometimes 2 or 3 passes somewhere in the field on every lap

NASCAR Left ... Left ... Left ... zzzzZZZZ ... pass the Beer billy-bob ya'll need another Hamburger and Fries.  NASCAR is like WWF of drama ... draft pass ... draft pass ... draft pass and crash ... driver fight fight fight.

I enjoy F1, but I'll admit, it can get very boring also ... races seem to be more about "the undercut".

4 hours ago, Luis Hernandez said:

but the power mix is now the 50% combustion-50% electric you see.

The current rules drama seems to be around combustion chamber size at ambient temp ... so some teams are developing engines with variable combustion chamber size based on temp ... looks like Ferrari are absolutely no where with their 2026 car.

12 hours ago, G-RFRY said:

There are now talks going on that could see electric power removed in future due to cost.

Current new battery tech may switch the direction completely to mostly electric with very small engine for charging only.

The pre race trials in F1 is the show. The race is an anticlimax.

7 hours ago, Luis Hernandez said:

 I don't remember how was the power balance before, but I understand it was more combustion

 

It was 25% to 30% electric. 2026 will be around 50%.

 

Modern F1 is word not allowed. We all know it. Those 1967 F1 cars were the best (they were certainly the most enjoyable to drive in Assetto Corsa), but unfortunately they were more dangerous than a Space Shuttle launch on a frosty morning.

I didn't exist back then. The earliest race I've seen was Monaco 1982, and that was because F1 was kind enough to re-broadcast some classic races in YouTube during the 2020 pandemic. That last lap was crazy!

31 minutes ago, Christopher Low said:

they were more dangerous than a Space Shuttle launch on a frosty morning

5 hours ago, SayAgain said:

I enjoy F1, but I'll admit, it can get very boring also ... races seem to be more about "the undercut".

Sometimes too extreme. See Monaco 2024: after the red flag it was all zzz. I only kept watching it because I was rooting for Leclerc.

5 hours ago, SayAgain said:

NASCAR Left ... Left ... Left ... zzzzZZZZ ... pass the Beer billy-bob ya'll need another Hamburger and Fries.  NASCAR is like WWF of drama ... draft pass ... draft pass ... draft pass and crash ... driver fight fight fight.

I enjoy F1, but I'll admit, it can get very boring also ... races seem to be more about "the undercut".

Whilst NASCAR does seem a bit  bizarre....I must say I really enjoy Indy Car. As a Brit I get to enjoy them undisturbed on a Sunday evening whilst slobbed out on the sofa and that revolving camera just above and behind the driver is fantastic.

The racing is exciting and competitive and most of the circuits seem far superior in terms of a proper competition than F1.

Places like Barber, Road America, Laguna Seca are far superior to the boring and/or emasculated F1 tracks of today. There's also a something of a more homely, enjoyable atmosphere to it all. 

Let's face it; F1 is all about extracting cash from whichever petrochemical dictatorship is willing to stump up the lolly to host these televised bore fests.