2 hours ago, hangar said:

not really, no... the squirrelly landing behavior begins after the mains touch and before the front wheel touches down... I agree that steering on rollout feels more assured but the wings still dip alot in crosswind landings just as before the patch ☹️

Then you haven't straighten out (de-crab) the aircraft correctly yet. Please see page 44 of the manual , second paragraphe.

To anyone that has both was wondering how this compares to FX Hjet ? I own both the Citation and Hjet but for some reason just can't get into the Hjet much. Love the Citation but looking for a good single pilot jet. Thanks

1 hour ago, bmarcoux2 said:

To anyone that has both was wondering how this compares to FX Hjet ? I own both the Citation and Hjet but for some reason just can't get into the Hjet much. Love the Citation but looking for a good single pilot jet. Thanks

I own both H-Jet and the Citation X. I am very much enjoying the Phenom at the moment and I like it more than those 2 aircraft. It's very well done and is also a bit of a challenge at times to fly so it keeps me interested and engaged. If you are used to the H-jet, you will be comfortable with the avionics. It's a bit of a challenge on takeoff as there is so much power, things move quick. I find I need to set the T/O trim in the Phenom to 1-1.5 more nose down for takeoff to avoid needing a lot of nose down trim immediately after takeoff. Hand flies fantastic, feels great on approach. A bit harder to slow down on arrival as you need to be at 180 for Flap 1 but once there it is fine. Spoiler might be a bit too effective, they are either on or off, there is no axis. Overall really enjoying it and I would not hesitate to recommend it!

6 hours ago, bigifooti said:

Then you haven't straighten out (de-crab) the aircraft correctly yet. Please see page 44 of the manual , second paragraphe.

Did not know about the vector graphical aid on the PFD, I will try to enable it and see if that helps me. Thank you!

1 hour ago, Flic1 said:

Spoiler might be a bit too effective, they are either on or off, there is no axis.

From the official Phenom 300 Pilot’s Operating Handbook (POH):

• The spoilers have multiple deployment modes:

  1. Flight spoilers (roll assist) – partially deployed to assist ailerons.

  2. Ground spoilers (lift dump) – fully deployed upon main landing gear compression and throttle retard to idle.

  3. Speed/brake function – can be deployed manually in-flight via the speed brake lever, from 0° (stowed) to 50° (fully deployed).

So, in terms of positions:

• 0° – fully retracted (stowed)

• Intermediate positions – variable deployment controlled by the lever or automatic flight logic

• 50° – fully deployed (speed brake / lift dump)

Effectively, the spoilers are continuously variable between 0° and 50°, so there isn’t a fixed number of discrete “positions” like on some older aircraft; it’s continuously adjustable within that range.

And remember in swept wing aircraft it’s important to fly the wing down to 50-60kts, so in a cross wind immediately after touchdown deploy into wind aileron to stop the wing from lifting up , don’t just relax !

Edited May 29May 29 by jon b

The Phenom is great thanks to Raul. All BizJet fans will be onboard with this one no doubt.

dd

Edited May 29May 29 by Sky_Pilot071

1 hour ago, turbomax said:

From the official Phenom 300 Pilot’s Operating Handbook (POH):

Thanks...I obviously need to revisit that section!

3 hours ago, turbomax said:

From the official Phenom 300 Pilot’s Operating Handbook (POH):

• The spoilers have multiple deployment modes:

  1. Flight spoilers (roll assist) – partially deployed to assist ailerons.

  2. Ground spoilers (lift dump) – fully deployed upon main landing gear compression and throttle retard to idle.

  3. Speed/brake function – can be deployed manually in-flight via the speed brake lever, from 0° (stowed) to 50° (fully deployed).

So, in terms of positions:

• 0° – fully retracted (stowed)

• Intermediate positions – variable deployment controlled by the lever or automatic flight logic

• 50° – fully deployed (speed brake / lift dump)

Effectively, the spoilers are continuously variable between 0° and 50°, so there isn’t a fixed number of discrete “positions” like on some older aircraft; it’s continuously adjustable within that range.

This doesn't appear to be the way the Sim is modeled, it is just a toggle, open or closed?

8 minutes ago, Joe L said:

This doesn't appear to be the way the Sim is modeled, it is just a toggle, open or closed?

Yeah, something definitely different in-sim. There is not a speed brake lever, just a switch....

8 minutes ago, Flic1 said:

Yeah, something definitely different in-sim. There is not a speed brake lever, just a switch....

There is nothing different in the sim.

There is also just a switch in the real thing. How they are deployed is governed by the computer.

In the air you only deploy the manually to rapidly lose speed, nothing else.

Upon landing they deploy automatically.

Edited May 29May 29 by Farlis

2 hours ago, Flic1 said:

Thanks...I obviously need to revisit that section!

Eric

That quote was from the supposedly "real" POH according to chatgpt, not from the SOH SimulatorOperatingHandbook , but after checking with chatgpt the exact same question again, this time the answer was:

Can you adjust the spoilers?

Yes — but only in a limited “open/close” way.

On the Embraer Phenom 300, the spoilers act as:

• roll spoilers,

• speed brakes,

• and ground spoilers.

The pilot can manually command the speed brake/spoiler system using the cockpit speed brake switch. However, unlike some larger jets, the Phenom 300 does not provide continuously variable manual spoiler positioning with a lever. The system essentially has two commanded positions:

• OPEN

• CLOSED (pdfcoffee.com)

When selected OPEN in flight, the spoiler panels deploy symmetrically up to about 35°. (pdfcoffee.com)

There are also automatic protections/interlocks:

• spoilers only function as speed brakes with flaps retracted,

• airspeed must be above roughly 125 KT,

• thrust levers must be below a certain power setting,

• and they auto-retract if those conditions are violated. (pdfcoffee.com)

On landing, the ground spoilers deploy automatically when armed conditions are met (weight on wheels, low thrust, etc.). (smartcockpit.com)

So the short answer is:

• Yes, pilots can manually command the spoilers/speed brakes.

• No, they cannot finely modulate spoiler angle like on many transport-category airliners with proportional spoiler levers.

Edited May 29May 29 by turbomax

IOW, on short final your speed should be good with a knotch of flaps.

Also, I just noticed that my CP's lips move when she speaks on the mike. lol

dd

Edited May 29May 29 by Sky_Pilot071

2 hours ago, Farlis said:

There is nothing different in the sim.

There is also just a switch in the real thing. How they are deployed is governed by the computer.

In the air you only deploy the manually to rapidly lose speed, nothing else.

Upon landing they deploy automatically.

It is different than the post above that quoted incorrect information.

Am I seeing it right that you cannot change the flight displays to show Kg, only lbs?

The system settings for units don't give an option?