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What a lovely community-driven spirit 🙄

The DR-400. You can tell it's the plane they've flown in real life, and on top they've recreated a full cockpit of it in their studios.

What you said makes no sense... if you enabled HT, which in theory doubles your CPU performance (not really but let's pretend) and the sim goes from 100% to 50% utilization, then it's literally not doing anything is it? If HT had any significant impact you'd want to still see 80-90% utilization and much better performance...

DX11

Alright I'll rephrase it for you since re-reading it now I can see how it could be interpreted this way: They've said time and time again that they weren't planning on doing VR *initially* for all sorts of reasons, one of them mentioned for 10 seconds during an interview a while ago was that they felt the current gen VR hardware and controls were lackluster. I'm sorry I do not remember in what interview this little snippet of info appeared, so I don't blame you if you don't believe it. I never quoted them either so the words used were porbably less inflamatory than mine. Hopefully we can agree on the general premise that they just want to do it right, and having hardware available to be able to do it right is a big part of it.

They've worked with Microsoft on HoloLens for almost a decade. They've said time and time again that they weren't planning on doing VR *initially* because they felt the current gen VR hardware and controls were lackluster.

But I was told countless times that flight simulators were the absolute pinnacle of software and that in comparison video games were a trivial matter that required no processing power at all as they were just displaying the sky, some trees and a gun. Or could it be that the people preaching this were completely clueless??

Hopefully this kills once and for all the absurd notion that "Flight sim is a niche market".

The Crew is a Ubisoft game franchise Asobo was involved with.

Whoever is making these teaser trailers, they are absolute perfection. Don't change a single thing.

Nice catch lol The water isn't actually clipping through, they made the underside texture of roofs invisible so it saves on rendering. Since it's a flightsim they probably assumed a roof would be seen from the top most of the time... they clearly forgot about the picture detectives among us 😀

Yep, it's trivial. But keep in mind this grass will only be rendered at very low altitudes, so the photoscenery textures will still need to be colored themselves if we want to have seasons.

MSFS is using screenspace reflections like most modern games. Nothing in the trailer or pictures is showing any sign of raytracing. The best example is the shot in the hangar from trailer: You can see how the plane geometry cuts of the hangar doors from reflecting into the ground, because as far as the screen is concerned, the doors don't exist. On the picture of the TBM you also can't see anything else than the blades reflecting on the cone, if it was raytraced you'd see reflections from the world behind the camera. Does that mean MSFS won't have raytracing at all? I have no idea, but purely from a performance point of view I doubt they'd waste the time needed to implement it in such a massive game when fast and proven tech like SSR does the job extremely well already. Keep in mind that most games which have raytracing are FPS games or 3rd person adventure games, not really the same kind of beast. Edit: Welp MS just announced now that bloody Minecraft is getting ray tracing... so clearly anything is possible 🤣

Surprised nobody said "no wingflex" 🤣 Maybe that's just an Aerosoft forums thing...

Flippin hell and then we wonder why devs don't like giving out updates. The main stuff about the new sim will most likely come with Gamescom, chillllll

I find it absolutely hilarious seeing MS consistently taking out every single criticism one by one, and with a bit of humor as well. Also props to them for giving a concrete timeline with actual dates and goals, don't see many addon devs doing that eh.

Exact same thing for me. I actually haven't flown since the trailer reveal lol, only been controlling on Vatsim... Personally I don't mind at all having "only" basic aircraft at release, I know I'll have fun as long as the flight dynamics are decent (ie not worse than P3D) and the sim if fluid. It will be a new experience, finally, and that's all I'm asking for.

The full interview with Phil Spencer (Head of Xbox division) was also published over at PCGamer https://www.pcgamer.com/xboxs-phil-spencer-on-game-pass-steam-and-the-epic-games-store/ Page 2 specifically has a couple lines about Flight Sim.

A 3 page thread about a shader enhancing tool and not a single picture... Come on guys, for those who were impressed show us what it looks like! 😄

Where did you find that estimate if I may ask? From my experience and numbers that I have found the average spending of a gamer (excluding hardware) is closer to $100-$200 a year, so your figure is really surprising to me.

Appreciate all the replies so far, some very good comments and I definitely agree with @PATCO LCH it's important to keep in mind that a good portion of devs are on top of their game when it comes to customer support. Well as I mentioned in my post you can still love the products and not be a fan of their "public relations" let's call it that. I thoroughly enjoy FSLabs' Airbus but that doesn't mean I agree with how they handled the events we're all familiar with a couple of months ago. I'm also sure many people have absolutely no problem with PMDG taking your example, but the reputation they created around themselves must have come from somewhere and it does exist just judging by the replies on this thread. Again following what I typed above, that really doesn't say much about what we're talking about here. I doubt people will come in hundreds telling us how they were insulted in their support tickets! But similarly you can't deny that if someone were to make a poll on who gives the absolute best support, it's not crazy to think A2A would be placed higher than PMDG. Haven't gotten anything either 😉

This past week has been the culmination of something that seems very specific to flight sim, which is that addon makers are apparently bent on trying to argue and fight against their customers for every question/remark/feedback given to them. Is it so hard for ORBX to not start arguing with a known youtuber in his comment section to try and prove some sort of point? Is it so hard for PMDG to answer regular questions or remarks without making essays on how said remark was stupid/rude/irrelevant? Is it so hard for FSDT to accept their software might sometimes be at fault without going at war with the person reporting it? Is it so hard for FSLabs to not argue about what was or wasn't in their installers and create PR disasters that people still bring up today? Now I don't want to pick on these companies specifically, they were just the ones that came to mind but I could go on and on. My point is simply that I cannot think of any other community or industry where content makers are this good at creating a reputation around them (completely separate from the quality of their products I want to emphasize; you often see people criticizing the company but loving the addons). I do not understand it, I know speaking for myself I stopped giving a cent to half the companies I listed above, so whatever their intent was it's at least not worked for me... As I said, this isn't a post to bash on any dev in particular, but noticing a genuine trend of hostility towards the customer that I don't comprehend. If you think I'm just seeing things and blowing it out of proportion then please tell me so and why.

"Required in order to be able to use" is pretty close to "Required in order to be able to install" don't you think? By the way I also find it quite ironic how some of you were very quick to dismiss the problem by saying people are looking for drama and conspiracy theories, while at the same time calling out Froogle for making the video because of some grand scheme he had to get clicks for his youtube channel...

Many thanks for running through all these tests! The numbers really are depressing though...

Volumetric clouds. (I would have said performance but that's not really a 'feature')