feelThere PIC Airbus Manuals are located in the main FSX folder under Simobjects/Airplanes

Many thanks!

If anyone wants to know how to fix this, let me know. It's easy and quick, well not for Wilco apparently.

I would really like to know how to fix this. Can you please tell me?M.

I just lost a bet!! I seriously thought that it was a April Fools joke! But it's already the 4th, and it's obviously not a joke!!Please HELP us PMDG!!!RegardsConri

We can rant all day, all it boils down to is that yes, Wilco treats its customers in rather light manner, yes Wilco products are flawed (ask the opinion of those who forked out 80 bucks for AirSimmer software) but FeelThere/Wilco still makes the best Airbus on the market. It might not look as pretty as some but most systems are functional and well implemented. Wishing Wilco to go bust in not just unfair, it's undeserved. It is we, as clients, who have the duty to make them understand we have rights for we spent our hard earned cash with them, maybe we could all demand a forum to start with?

We can rant all day, all it boils down to is that yes, Wilco treats its customers in rather light manner, yes Wilco products are flawed (ask the opinion of those who forked out 80 bucks for AirSimmer software) but FeelThere/Wilco still makes the best Airbus on the market. It might not look as pretty as some but most systems are functional and well implemented. Wishing Wilco to go bust in not just unfair, it's undeserved. It is we, as clients, who have the duty to make them understand we have rights for we spent our hard earned cash with them, maybe we could all demand a forum to start with?

The clients don't have any duty's to to make a company provide good products or some of the most basic customer care. And I think no one here could point out any of these facts to Wilco and expect them to change. Wilcos approach to customer service suits a company that develops poor quality products and doesn't bother fixing anything. And in most business a good product, pride and support keeps you in business, the only reason company's like Wilco continue to function like this is because people keep buying from them and excepting the down falls.

Granted, duty was a poor choice of words, none the less I reckon by leaning on providers of services, regardless what they are, we have the power, as customers, to make things happen. There is no need to wish them dead for that. Wilco is by no means the child eating ogre some are describing here. Funny, I never believed I'd ever be defending them. :-)And yes, we are accepting the downsides of their products, but it does not mean we can't try have them corrected. I have, actually been in touch with customer support and they do reply. OK, they haven't yet come up with a solution but I keep faith.

I would really like to know how to fix this. Can you please tell me?M.

The Fix

..but it does not mean we can't try have them corrected. I have, actually been in touch with customer support and they do reply. OK, they haven't yet come up with a solution but I keep faith.

People told them for years and wilco never fixed their airbuses.Why whould they fix them now ? They know that a fool is born every minute.They know they will sell no matter what.Look at what happened here on avsim.Ppl were warned many times and yet some folks went on and bought the software and then come here and complain.The way wilco does business reminds of how the bookmakers operate. Bookies did their market research and they know that the average bettor is stupid.they call them mug punters.Bookies attract people with bonuses and stuff and then offer them crap prices so that in the long run the customers will always lose and them bookies get fat.V

Allright, guys...I have installed the "Upgrade" it functions in an acceptable manner !Let's put it this way. To date Wilco is the best Airbus add-on you will find (Period). Yes, I know there are some some limitations. But, come-on guys,those of you who are turning up-side-down and yelling and screaming, do you realize that Wilco is the only one who has bravely done "as real as it grts" ? No one else has done it. Everyone seems to be able to develop a Boeing. In fact, there are Boeing products all through our noses. --- Are you a real pilot and that's how you measure this product? Wake up friend! It is impossible to compare a multi-million machine (the real thing) with a $50.00 bunch of "little graphics" to play on her your home computer.--- Are you a pilot "wana-be" or a "pilot-wanted-to-be" and you say the product is bad because you are reading articles that may be close to "how to fly an Airbus", and then you realize it doesn't fly or those what you have read on Google, or You-tube? Well, sorry, you will not find one product out there that will do anyhing close to the real thing (period).--- Observation: I've noticed some people enter these forums and they seem to just "blah-blah-blah" based on what they have read or heard from others. Folks if you have never flown (PIC) a real Airbus, how can you critize the work of some-one who has done the "best" they can so that you can satisfy the "pilot-wana-be" hunger. The only realistic way to satisfy that hunger is by paying some top dollar to fly in a real Airbus simulator or a real airplane.--- Folks this is the best we have now...Learn to say "Thank you" When aanother developer have the big enough "marbles" and capabilities to develop another Airbus that can get another little step close to the real thing, then (and until then) we can say this new product is better than Wilco"s...HOWEVER, I CAN ASSURE YOU, that you WILL ALWAYS (ALWAYS) FIND A DIFFICIENCY IN EVERY ONE OF THESE PRODUCTS-- ALWAYS ! Now, if you'll excuse me, I'll jump on my Airbus A340-600(Wilco's) and try to stall this thing (It never stalls...My eyes will stall, before this beauty of technology will stall). And then I'll do a CAT lll landing on a stormy weather, and see this Airbus perform a marvel of a landing before my own eyes...Ahhh, how beautiful it functions...And some people say it doesn't work. Are you kidding, me? Either you have a lousy computer or you have NOT learn how to fly this wonder ! :( Johnny

People told them for years and wilco never fixed their airbuses.Why whould they fix them now ? They know that a fool is born every minute.They know they will sell no matter what.Look at what happened here on avsim.Ppl were warned many times and yet some folks went on and bought the software and then come here and complain.The way wilco does business reminds of how the bookmakers operate. Bookies did their market research and they know that the average bettor is stupid.they call them mug punters.Bookies attract people with bonuses and stuff and then offer them crap prices so that in the long run the customers will always lose and them bookies get fat.V

Mmmm... I'm not sure I like being called stupid. I'm afraid this is getting out of hand. I have minor complains only with this product, it works more or less as advertised for most of us and I just wanted to share that opinion. But if that opinion does not deserve respect on that forum, then I sure won't carry on!

The issue here is not whether or not Wilco has made something which compares to a full blown level D simulator but whether it has made something that is fit for purpose. Airbus automation is an integral feature of the flight model and a key feature of this model is managed descent. Its not an optional extra like a HUD it is fundamental to the way an Airbus flies. I have spent many hours in commercial flight simulators and I am not expecting ANY developer to replicate this experience (although PMDG will probably come closer than most with the NGX). I do, however, expect the basics to be covered and managed descent is as basic as it gets - the 6,000 fpm plunges after TOD don't constitute a flight model - at least no flight model which in the real world would be survivable.If Wilco had focussed on the basics, and eschewed gimmicks like the Hud or weather radar then they may have produced something worth adding to an FSX hanger. As it is, what they have produced with this upgrade is to apply lipstick (rather badly) to a pig. I can give credit to Wilso for an attempt at replicating airbus autmation but theyhave fluffed it, and then walked away. The former is unfortunate, the latter is unforgivable. The pull of money obviously outweighed any sense of pride in, or responsibility for the end-product. I bought Wilco version 1 and relegated it to the 'useless shelf' shortly thereafter. The best option on the horizon to date is FSLABS and the Airbus Professional Series currently being developed. They earned their spurs with their Concorde X model and, in my opiniuon, have a better chance than most of pulling off a descent Airbus. More to the point, however, they don't just walk away from their customers like Wilco. Until FSLabs complete their attempt, my credit card remains firmly in my pocket.With a bit of luck, the new generation of models from PMDG,FSLABS and Aerosoft will set a new a benchmark and developers like Wilco witll whither away and die because the bar wil have been raised. After all, as has already been said in this forum, after you have eaten steak you won't want to return to a (badly cooked) hamburger.

The issue here is not whether or not Wilco has made something which compares to a full blown level D simulator but whether it has made something that is fit for purpose. Airbus automation is an integral feature of the flight model and a key feature of this model is managed descent. Its not an optional extra like a HUD it is fundamental to the way an Airbus flies. I have spent many hours in commercial flight simulators and I am not expecting ANY developer to replicate this experience (although PMDG will probably come closer than most with the NGX). I do, however, expect the basics to be covered and managed descent is as basic as it gets - the 6,000 fpm plunges after TOD don't constitute a flight model - at least no flight model which in the real world would be survivable.If Wilco had focussed on the basics, and eschewed gimmicks like the Hud or weather radar then they may have produced something worth adding to an FSX hanger. As it is, what they have produced with this upgrade is to apply lipstick (rather badly) to a pig. I can give credit to Wilso for an attempt at replicating airbus autmation but theyhave fluffed it, and then walked away. The former is unfortunate, the latter is unforgivable. The pull of money obviously outweighed any sense of pride in, or responsibility for the end-product. I bought Wilco version 1 and relegated it to the 'useless shelf' shortly thereafter. The best option on the horizon to date is FSLABS and the Airbus Professional Series currently being developed. They earned their spurs with their Concorde X model and, in my opiniuon, have a better chance than most of pulling off a descent Airbus. More to the point, however, they don't just walk away from their customers like Wilco. Until FSLabs complete their attempt, my credit card remains firmly in my pocket.With a bit of luck, the new generation of models from PMDG,FSLABS and Aerosoft will set a new a benchmark and developers like Wilco witll whither away and die because the bar wil have been raised. After all, as has already been said in this forum, after you have eaten steak you won't want to return to a (badly cooked) hamburger.

Well said, I remember the first time I tried managed descent with FS Passengers, the passengers all screamed.

Does anybody know if the Evolution upgrade is compatible with the Just Flight Airbus Series - Volume 1? What is the difference between the Wilco Airbus Series 1 and the JustFlight Airbus Series 1? Are they the same product? I'm confused!

The best option on the horizon to date is FSLABS and the Airbus Professional Series currently being developed. They earned their spurs with their Concorde X model and, in my opiniuon, have a better chance than most of pulling off a descent Airbus. More to the point, however, they don't just walk away from their customers like Wilco. Until FSLabs complete their attempt, my credit card remains firmly in my pocket.With a bit of luck, the new generation of models from PMDG,FSLABS and Aerosoft will set a new a benchmark and developers like Wilco witll whither away and die because the bar wil have been raised. After all, as has already been said in this forum, after you have eaten steak you won't want to return to a (badly cooked) hamburger.

I totally agree except for Aerosofts Scarebus, unless they find somebody who is familiar with flight dynamics. :(

Does anybody know if the Evolution upgrade is compatible with the Just Flight Airbus Series - Volume 1? What is the difference between the Wilco Airbus Series 1 and the JustFlight Airbus Series 1? Are they the same product? I'm confused!

They are the same. Wilco sells from its own shop and distributes through suppliers like 'Just flight'. If I were in your shoes I wouldn't buy this. It is a deeply flawed model, there is no support and Wilco haven't released any patches to fix the bugs. They have released an 'evolution' upgrade which costs more money and which doesn't fix any of the fundemental problems but gives you a weather radar which works some of the time and a HUD which you can oinly use in 2D mode. If you want an Airbus from FSX unfortunatly there isn't one which at the moment - only a few flawed attempts which developers are trying to make money from - some like Airsimmer are well documented train wrecks. . My advice is to hang onto your cash until FSLABS release their Airbus (check out theirforum). They are serious developers in the PMDG class and are very unliklely to release anything to market with deep flaws, to or walk away from offering support to their customers - unlike Wilco.