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Jeff Nielsen

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Woah. Seriously. That is some incredible detail! But.... nobody is taking my FSX away from me. I've spent too much money on it.

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Microsoft is in trouble if they don't come with it concerning Flight. I'm thinking of switching myself...

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All of the eye candy they're showing off is great and makes me jealous, but at the core it's still X-Plane. X-Plane never has been accessible nor realistic for me.

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Wens it due out, also will the big addon companys buy into it.Alan

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X-Plane 10 is going to make a great ground simulator LOL.gif

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Are they making a driving simulator? The only thing I liked about X-plane was doing shuttle missions.

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If X-Plane 10 includes aircraft on par with the NGX in terms of cockpit detail and graphics, they could be a real contender.But X-Plane's problem has always been that the cockpits in their planes look like something out of FS98.And a lot of dev's are afraid to touch X-Plane, especially those that do boxes, because Austin likes to change the code frequently.Maybe X-Plane 10 will change all this?

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If X-Plane 10 includes aircraft on par with the NGX in terms of cockpit detail and graphics, they could be a real contender.But X-Plane's problem has always been that the cockpits in their planes look like something out of FS98.And a lot of dev's are afraid to touch X-Plane, especially those that do boxes, because Austin likes to change the code frequently.Maybe X-Plane 10 will change all this?
You might be somewhat interested in the newest payware aircraft recently built for XP9 and XP10. If you go to any X-Plane website you will find links to aircraft developed and released within the past 12 months that all include high quality rendering, accurate systems, textures and lighting effects. You might be interested in a Bombardier Challenger 300 at $30 USD with systems modeled, high detailed cockpit and cabin. If the preview screens do not provide enough detail the "More pictures here" link will show you about 85 more pictures all unique to the different features of the aircraft. This is one example. You will also find quality ERJ-140 recently released, A330 and A340 just released. The newest Dash 8 400 is rich in features at around $40. Perhaps you like helicopters and would want the latest Bell 206B or Robinson R22.I'm guessing that the higher end aircraft would be the CRJ-200 by Javier Rollon with its 55 page tutorial, video tutorials, and 155 page manual. Each of these media fully illustrate and explain the simulated systems and properties of the aircraft. There are 5 pages dedicated to just the environmental control system. Also a few of the Carenado aircraft are available for current and future XP releases.The cockpits are far from FS98. I also believe a recent forum thread here describes the potential for PMDG to start development for XP10. If I remember accurately, two of their near term project/releases will be the 737 NGX and 747-400 for XP10. I hope this give you new consideration for XP.

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Do you don't have to convert. You can have both simulators. Plus DCS for the A-10 Warthog. Fill your computer with quality!Regarding X-plane, take a look at this:

This is being developed for X-plane 9 but I'm told it will be even better in X-Plane 10 which has more features. I'll definitely be getting X-plane 10 if only for this aircraft. I think the X-plane developers and its add-on developers are more into simulation than gaming. Who knows what MS Flight will be like? There are fears that it will be another "Flight Unlimited" all controlled by Windows Live Games. It looks like MS are heading towards the gaming market, rather than simulation market. I'm not too hopeful, but then again, we should wait and see.If you love this hobby and FSX, as I do, then perhaps you should consider supporting X-plane and it's add-ons as well, as I do.

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Who knows what MS Flight will be like? There are fears that it will be another "Flight Unlimited" all controlled by Windows Live Games. It looks like MS are heading towards the gaming market, rather than simulation market. I'm not too hopeful, but then again, we should wait and see.
There are some rumors that Flight will only allow Microsoft DLC, so no PMDG, CaptainSim, or whatever.

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Ok I may be an old FS9er, but any sim that won't allow PMDG, iFly and Project Tupolev is of no interest to me. But each to his/her own.

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I have always thought X-plane had the very real potential to surpass the MS Flight simulator range. But it never quite got there, maybe X-Plane 10 will change all that.For everyone who loves VC's, detailed systems, realism (and the CRJ 200):

and this is from 2 years ago in X-Plane 9. Based on that I can only imagine what will be possible in X-Plane10!!!There's been a slow but steady rise in the add-ons developed and available for X-plane (freeware and payware).
Ok I may be an old FS9er, but any sim that won't allow PMDG, iFly and Project Tupolev is of no interest to me. But each to his/her own.
Agreed! (especially on Project Tupolev!)

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This might be a converting sim for me - *might* being the key word. I've never really liked the physics of X-Plane all that much. Will certainly give it a try though.

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There are some rumors that Flight will only allow Microsoft DLC, so no PMDG, CaptainSim, or whatever.
That is just a fear. It would make no sense for them to do that. The worst that might happen is that M$ demand that add-on content is controlled by their DLC system, where they keep a percentage of the profits. However, I think Flight will be operated pretty much like Railworks is on Steam. It will have DLC, but remain open ended, allowing content to be added manually.The problem with Microsoft is they copy good ideas and make bad examples from them. They keep trying to provide solutions for everything but they do it badly. What worries me is stuff like ASE - will M$ force us to use their own crappy version that is not compatible with ASE? It wouldn't surprise me.Btw the way, FSX still a viable platform and my guess is that it has a good 5 years life in it -- unless M$ chose to ignore compatibility for it with Windows 8.
Ok I may be an old FS9er, but any sim that won't allow PMDG, iFly and Project Tupolev is of no interest to me. But each to his/her own.
It's a great pity that Project Tupolev didn't move over to FSX, I think.

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It's a great pity that Project Tupolev didn't move over to FSX, I think.
For my FSXer friends (I don't do Flight Sim hate) yes it is. However I think they may have done a 154B version for FSX. Check the FSX forum.

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FSX and Prepar3D are my choices. From what I have heard Flight won't even come close to what I want. However, X-Plane10 is very interesting, so it can't be ruled out. If it is good enough, I could possiby jump, but the bar is very high!Kind regards,

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For my FSXer friends (I don't do Flight Sim hate) yes it is. However I think they may have done a 154B version for FSX. Check the FSX forum.
Yup, FSX beta version of Tu-154B2 is available for download from Project Tupolev:http://files.protu-1...-154b2_fsx.html
..........The worst that might happen is that M$ demand that add-on content is controlled by their DLC system, where they keep a percentage of the profits. However, I think Flight will be operated pretty much like Railworks is on Steam.
I don't like Steam and other similar arrangements. A Microsoft DLC system would also be unacceptable for me.If Flight is anything remotely like that - well, I will be happy to continue using what I have now and there will also be X-Plane 10.

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Great news about the Tupolev Project being available for FSX that is.

I don't like Steam and other similar arrangements. A Microsoft DLC system would also be unacceptable for me.If Flight is anything remotely like that - well, I will be happy to continue using what I have now and there will also be X-Plane 10.
Me neither, but I'm afraid that's the way things are going. Steam has been around for a long time and is probably the best of it's kind. Microsoft's answer to Steam -- Games for Windows Live -- is nowhere near as good nor as user friendly and tends to be slow logging in. You don't even notice logging on to Steam. I've had Steam almost since it began and it's worked fine.I see you're in Bulgaria, by the way. I was in Sofia last March with work, I enjoyed the visit. I especially enjoyed Supertrans cabs after initially getting ripped off by one of those expensive cab companies at the airport. The Happy restaurant on Georgi S. Rakovski road was one of our favourite haunts - loved the sausages there, and the Kamenitza beer. The gave me a Kamenitza beer glass when we left. We also visited the Pri Yafata restaurant on the last evening and that was also very nice./Jason

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I tried X-Plane once back when it was $200 bucks. I flew it a day or two and never touched it again.I think we all feel that no matter how great a job they do on the living world, it's the airplanes we're paying for. I wouldn't expect them to have PMDG quality planes as defaults, but the ability for me to fly a super complex sim supersedes the scenery. I will assume that all this ground detail isn't at the cost of performance but my main concerns is the add on developers. ORBX/FSDT/PMDG etc..I will be buying X-Plane 10 though, with my fingers crossed the way.

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