March 1, 201214 yr I thought it was an excellent review! It has lots of good information, andpersonally, I like the upbeat tone.. There is no way you can please the glass almost empty andthe glass partially full groups at the same time.I'm not sure Flight will ever turn into the kind of flightsim I would fly often,but there is that possibility, and why not hope for the best! After a session with the RV in Flight, I usually turn FSX back on andfly some rounds with the wonderful Bay Tower RV7, with a big smile on my face Bert
March 1, 201214 yr Great review by Luis! Parabéns Luís! Flying gliders since 1980 Flightsimming since 1992 AMD Ryzen 5600x, 32GB RAM, GPU Nvidia RTX 3060 Ti 8 GB, 1 TB and 500 GB nvme2 SSD drives, HP 27" 60Hz LED monitor @ 1920x1080, T16000, Hotas from old X52 Pro, Saitek Combat Rudder Pro (2010 model)
March 1, 201214 yr those who don't like it should really consider spending more time with things that they do like. Life is just more pleasant that way.Thanks for the Life lesson, Luis! Muito Obrigado!Cheers,- jahman.
March 1, 201214 yr Many thanks for this unbiased review :Kiss:I have now given Flight a couple of tries and it's definitely not for me. Much too boring and certainly not meant for us serious simmers......Good luck to Microsoft Games but I very much doubt it will be a money spinner for Microsoft......
March 1, 201214 yr IMO the review is a tad premature.This sim is all about the DLC, and until we see a fair amount of it, this sim is pretty much bare bones.Hopefully Avsim does another review a year or so from now, when this sim has matured some.Regards.Ernie.
March 1, 201214 yr Excellent review, seems very fair and balanced. Clearly, though, not for me. I think that I will go back to FS9 and RFP.Best Regards, everyone,Ed.
March 1, 201214 yr Thanks, guys, for the positive comments. I tried to cover the topics with a balanced point of view and from a positive angle. There is no point in being negative about Flight - those who don't like it should really consider spending more time with things that they do like. Life is just more pleasant that way.Best regards.LuisIt's a fact that a lot of people are disappointed in Flight, and this should be reflected in the score of any review. Instead the review begins by saying that all the negativity is undeserved and all the critics are wrong and are just "resisting change". That's not balanced, that's being biased.One thing I like in life is playing flight simulators, but I feel my options are becoming more and more limited. FSX is aging quickly, X-Plane still doesn't manage to interest me with its weird scenery, poor performance and unfriendly interface.There's AeroFly and Flight, but they're both too limited in scope.I could potentially learn to like Flight. After all, Flight Unlimited III was my primary sim back in the day. But that sim from 1999 did dynamic weather, AI aircraft and ATC. Flight doesn't do this in 2012. Give me a couple of hundred thousand square miles of scenery and proper ATC and I might give Flight a second chance. *Right now*, even with all $40 worth of DLC, it's just a boring, empty shell of a flightsim. That's the product you should have reviewed today. Not the one we might eventually have in two years and after $200 worth of DLC, unless MIcrosoft just decides to shut it down because it isn't profitable enough. Edited March 1, 201214 yr by JimmiG -
March 1, 201214 yr I also felt that this review had a slightly too positive bias, but that's fine, everybody's underlying sentiments come through in everything we do. I was in the Beta and kept my mouth totally shut, and I have downloaded and "played" with the release product, and it still strikes me the same way - for reasons I can't even really quite put a finger on the whole experience just leaves me cold. I hope others will enjoy it, and that perhaps years down the road it will mature into something that will capture my interest, I guess we'll see...In the mean time, the combination of Orbix, Rex2, AccuFeel and a boat-load of aftermarket aircraft make FSX such an enjoyable experience that I will be quite satisfied for the foreseeaable future. Edited March 1, 201214 yr by flapsdown
March 1, 201214 yr It seems to me that MS Flight is an acceptable game on its own, but it's the 11th generation of a series that has up until now built upon the previous release. Disapointing Jordan Forrest
March 1, 201214 yr Commercial Member Perhaps AVSIM should review the available add-ons and see if they are worth the money.It is hard to fault a free product, but Microsoft now sells add-ons as well and in my opionion asking $15 for an add-on aircraft that has no radio and no working autopilot is really asking a lot from it's customers.
March 1, 201214 yr MS could had aleast incorperate in to the sim something for the hardcore enthusiast, a taste of what is to come so we could all have a play around. It seems they have ignored us totally and produced a game, initially atleast, totally aimed at the arcade crowd.Why did they not aim the sim at evryone by enabling some hardcore features? Instead the rest of us have to wait for tweeks and mods. Edited March 1, 201214 yr by Stonelove
March 1, 201214 yr Perhaps AVSIM should review the available add-ons and see if they are worth the money.It is hard to fault a free product, but Microsoft now sells add-ons as well and in my opionion asking $15 for an add-on aircraft that has no radio and no working autopilot is really asking a lot from it's customers.it has working nav and radios! And actually playing it for weeks now I don't miss an autopilot at all. Love to learn handflying which is much more exciting. Other than that, yes the price maybe a little steep :)
March 1, 201214 yr it has working nav and radios! And actually playing it for weeks now I don't miss an autopilot at all. Love to learn handflying which is much more exciting. Other than that, yes the price maybe a little steep :)But the handflying experience isn't anything particularly impressive.Maybe it'll be improved, but I doesn't give the feeling of traveling through a dynamic, fluid atmosphere at the moment. Jordan Forrest
March 1, 201214 yr Hi Luis.Nice review. I have been able to try Flight since I updated my Nvidia video card drivers. Now my old computer runs it fairly well on medium settings. I am very impressed with that.It's too bad your positive attitude hasn't been universally recieved for what it is.For those of you who do not know Luis, he is a man that sees a glass half full... with the potential of becomming totally full. When something has not been quite right in FS2002, FS2004, or FSX, Luis has used his attitude and skill in fixing the problem. And I have had the pleasure of collaborating with him in this regard on a few occasions.I am more pessimistic in nature, but Luis has often inspired me to keep working at it until I find a solution. His opinion is one I have learned to trust whole-heartedly.The fellas at MGS may well give us some more features in future releases. They may also deliver an SDK for developers to provide addon content of the type we are more accustomed to receive.For now, if Flight is not what you like, why not go to Microsoft's facebook page, and make a civil request for a feature. If the comments are in favor, the MGS crew may well get the message, and deliver the content you want. If you don't contact them, you probably won't get it.Dick
March 1, 201214 yr Moderator During the Beta there was a lot of lobbying for simple things such as Toe brakes, they are in there, you can use them whilst walking around but MS chose to ignore the fact that they are actually used in the aircraft as well, they do not listen.On the contrary. They did listen. It's on the list of things to implement on the next update to the core. In the meantime, it's a fairly simple matter to enable them via the standard.xml file edit.It seems to me that MS Flight is an acceptable game on its own, but it's the 11th generation of a series that has up until now built upon the previous release. DisapointingNo, it is not. When are folks going to realize that Flight is version 1.0 of an entirely new paradigm?Perhaps AVSIM should review the available add-ons and see if they are worth the money.It is hard to fault a free product, but Microsoft now sells add-ons as well and in my opionion asking $15 for an add-on aircraft that has no radio and no working autopilot is really asking a lot from it's customers.Both the Vans RV- 6 and the Maule have "working radios." Granted there's no ATC, but tuning a COM radio provides a private channel over which to talk in real-time with another pilot while in a Multi-Player session, which quite frankly is a whole lot more satisfying than chatting with a dumb AI controller!The NAV radios also work quite well with the HSI in the Maule, and the two BK VOR heads in the RV-6.The AP is INOP at this time, but that's quite likely a subject for a future patch-push to enable.I'm frankly puzzled why anyone would deliberately spread misinformation. It certainly doesn't do much to enhance their credibility... Fr. Bill AOPA Member: 07141481 AARP Member: 3209010556 Avsim Board of Directors | Avsim Forums Moderator
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