Only if you never buy any addons for it. The risk could be much higher than that.

 

Actually no that's not quite right, you would buy the addons for FSX as well and you can use them in FSX.

Just make sure in Windows Proces Manager you have at least 4GB of RAM available before starting FSX.
After that there is not much more you can do except minimizing your scenery library to the area's you actually fly in. Because everything that is checked in there will be loaded.

I don't think LOD_RADIUS has anything to do with OOM, although yes, you will increase the area for detailed textures, but it's already loaded inside your pc memory.
It will decrease performance because it need more computing to actually calculate and display the textures, and it will need more videocard RAM. But i don't think that this causes an FSX OOM error (not sure though).

I have lod_radius set to 6.0 and I only once had OOM, with the NGX and all my scenery loaded incuding ORBX NA with a lot of airports and all kinds of Dreamteam/Flightbeam airports and multiple Bluesky and MegaSceneries.
Thats when i started being selective with my active scenery in the Scenery library. This was only 2 weeks ago, and before and after I never had an OOM error.

I don't think LOD_RADIUS has anything to do with OOM, because yes, you will increase the area for detailed textures, but it's already loaded inside your pc memory.

 

Then why do I get OOMs when I try to raise the LOD over the default value in certain areas?

Then why do I get OOMs when I try to raise the LOD over the default value in certain areas?

I don't know, but can you reproduce this multiple times? I mean did you seriously tests this isolated and did you check your memory prior to starting FSX?

Try Alactricy to diable some processes and disable some services in Windows (just make sure you Google if it's safe to disable a particular service).

Again, i'm not totally sure about this, i'm only trying to understand what is happening with the lod_radius by thinking out loud here.

 

I'm not saying you are wrong or lying, but I never get an OOM just by making sure FSX can have what it needs.

I can raise my lod to 9 if i want to without OOM's, but my performance suffers too much. I'm just trying to help. You don't have to have a super computer to avoid OOM's, just make sure you follow the absolute-minimum-of-4GB's-available-rule and minimize your active scenery in the library.

"I never get OOM"

you never had an OOM? lol, good luck to you but I just couldn't fly with my sliders at 50% just to avoid the odd oom, the wow factor from 95 out of 100 successful flights is the reason Im ORBX, PMDG, REX, Aerosoft etc

 

​How cares about GA stutters? they are non existent in High end systems. Your flying low end then yes, do what you have to do, all sliders left.

 

Only way I can induce them is upping the LOD really high.

 

Never get them in the NGX otherwise, even into the heaviest areas. Maybe I'm just lucky?

The problem with P3D is that LM can remove public availability whenever they please.

 

And Microsoft could stop selling FSX whenever they please. So what? Every piece of software has that risk.

 

Orbx isn't a dumb company. They've heavily hinted P3D 2.0 is going to be a game changer and they aren't hedging their bets with X-Plane. They are in direct contact with LM so they know something we don't know. I'd bet a lot of money on it and if it weren't going to be for personal use they wouldn't be putting all their chips in on it.

I don't know, but can you reproduce this multiple times? I mean did you seriously tests this isolated and did you check your memory prior to starting FSX?

Try Alactricy to diable some processes and disable some services in Windows (just make sure you Google if it's safe to disable a particular service).

 

I'm not saying you are wrong or lying, but I never get an OOM just by making sure FSX can have what it needs.

I can raise my lod to 9 if i want to without OOM's, but my performance suffers too much. I'm just trying to help. You don't have to have a super computer to avoid OOM's, just make sure you follow the absolute-minimum-of-4GB's-available-rule and minimize your active scenery in the library.

 

^_^ Yes I have tested this and I can reproduce it multible times but as I said OOMs isn't a problem for me as long as I don't mess with high LODs. Offcourse I can also use LOD 9 in some scenarios, e.g when flying GA, but flying the NGX into complex sceneries it will end up in an OOM instantly.

Also Instead of having to disable sceneries all the time I have settled with not touching the LOD radius and this have saved me from the OOMs. The reason you can use such high LODs maybe because you are disabling sceneries to lower the VAS.

It's your solution to OOMs and I have mine(there is no right or wrong there just a different solution). I change areas I fly so often that disabling and enabling all the time is just to much hassle for me...

 

But saying LOD radius doesn't affect the VAS I don't beleive :rolleyes:

And no I don't need any help, as Im perfectly satisfied with my FSX setup, just wanted to disagree with your saying that LOD doesn't affect VAS...That's all

I read all of these posts with a ton of bewilderment.

 

I have an Intel i7 990 Extreme running at 3.47ghz.

It has 12gb of DDR memory.

It has an NVidia GeForce GTX 460.

It's running Win7 64bit Pro

 

I can run FSX without any of these tweaks.  Don't use a one.  Here are my settings:

Graphics -

• Screen Resolution: 1920x1080x32
• Filtering Trilinear
• Antialiasing: checked
• Global Texture Resolution: Very High
• Preview DirectX 10: unchecked
• Lens flare: checked
• Light bloom: unchecked
• Advanced animations: checked

Aircraft -

• Global settings Medium High
• High-resolution 3-D virtual cockpit: checked
• Aircraft casts shadows on ground: checked
• Aircraft casts shadows on itself: unchecked
• Aircraft landing-lights illuminate ground: checked

Scenery -

• Global settings: Custom
• All of the sliders are full right.
• Land detail textures: checked
• Ground scenery shadows: unchecked

Weather -

• Global settings: Ultra High
• Cloud draw distance: 60mi
• Cloud detail: Detailed clouds
• Cloud coverage density: Maximum

Traffic -

• Airline: 20%
• GA: 20%
• Airport vehicle: Medium
• Road vehicles: 20%
• Ships and ferries: 40%
• Leisure boats: 40%

I have frames set to unlimited and sitting on 34R at KSEA in the virtual cockpit of the Eaglesoft Citation X v2 I see 30fps.

 

That's no tweaking of any kind.  None.

 

If you're having to overclock and do all manner of crazy stuff to see this performance... it might just be your computer has issues... but hey, go ahead and blame the one item that's identical between your system and mine. :wink:

 

 

Wow, I hope to have the luck you've had when I cross over (from FS9 to FSX).

Question for those who have been with FSX since day one. Did this thing run right then? O r did it always require poking and prodding?

It always required poking and prodding. In-fact, when I bought it on release day, I could barely use it - performance was AWFUL! Although I did have a fairly awful computer back then I was running FSX on a standard DELL office computer with a 1.8GHz CPU and god knows what graphics card was in there. Since then I have invested into a lot of money into computers and software in order to run FSX like it should run. Unfortunately though that has all come to a complete halt, as FSX is producing DLL errors (currently in the process of sorting it out before the T7 comes -_-).

 

(sigh...) 7 years and still trying to be patient and doing my best to sort these things out...guarantee we will all look back on these days in 7 years time and just laugh hysterically!  

 

 

Wow, I hope to have the luck you've had when I cross over (from FS9 to FSX).

 

I wouldn't bet on it :lol: I take that post with a grain of salt. Kinda of reminds of a post awhile back where another user with an Extreme edition CPU(unclocked water cooled) claimed that he could max everything and the key to this was all in the RAM :lol:  

Wow, I hope to have the luck you've had when I cross over (from FS9 to FSX).

 

 

To increase that likelihood: I have a similar system with similar settings and no tweaks, either. Runs fine in 95% of all places I choose.

^_^ Yes I have tested this and I can reproduce it multible times but as I said OOMs isn't a problem for me as long as I don't mess with high LODs. Offcourse I can also use LOD 9 in some scenarios, e.g when flying GA, but flying the NGX into complex sceneries it will end up in an OOM instantly.

Also Instead of having to disable sceneries all the time I have settled with not touching the LOD radius and this have saved me from the OOMs. The reason you can use such high LODs maybe because you are disabling sceneries to lower the VAS.

It's your solution to OOMs and I have mine(there is no right or wrong there just a different solution). I change areas I fly so often that disabling and enabling all the time is just to much hassle for me...

 

But saying LOD radius doesn't affect the VAS I don't beleive :rolleyes:

And no I don't need any help, as Im perfectly satisfied with my FSX setup, just wanted to disagree with your saying that LOD doesn't affect VAS...That's all

Yea, as long as it works for you, do whatever you want ofcourse!

 

I don't have to sacrifice anything to fly with lod_radius 6, it's just that one time when I forgot to set FTX Central back to default. Mind you, i had gigabytes of photoscenery loaded on top of a well filled Orbx area. So as a tip to anyone, just make sure you have enough free memory for FSX you probably won't get a OOM, not even with the NGX in complex scenery's with lod=6.

 

But maybe this is another 'only on some pc's it works' FSX kind of thing. There are a lot of those

J van E, on 03 Jul 2013 - 02:02 AM, said:

That won't be of much use because most really smooth FSX video's have been recorded at half speed and then speeded up during editing...

Can you point me to videos that are not modified? I'd like to see myself what most people are really seeing with FSX these days.

Wow, I hope to have the luck you've had when I cross over (from FS9 to FSX).

I would like to see an uneditted video just to see what it looks like (scenery's/weather/).

And if it is as good as he describes, I want to buy his computer instantly, lol.

 

@Dillon: I made a video some time ago. I only used fraps for recording, so no FS recorder or playback stuff.

I did edit out some cloudflashing and scenery build up after camera switching to make it nicer, but what you see is 'live footage' so to speak.

 

I'm sorry about the high bloom levels, i was still figuring out SweetFX.

It always required poking and prodding. In-fact, when I bought it on release day, I could barely use it - performance was AWFUL! Although I did have a fairly awful computer back then I was running FSX on a standard DELL office computer with a 1.8GHz CPU and god knows what graphics card was in there. Since then I have invested into a lot of money into computers and software in order to run FSX like it should run. Unfortunately though that has all come to a complete halt, as FSX is producing DLL errors (currently in the process of sorting it out before the T7 comes -_-).

 

(sigh...) 7 years and still trying to be patient and doing my best to sort these things out...guarantee we will all look back on these days in 7 years time and just laugh hysterically!  

 

 

IIRC, multicore usage and large memory awareness were added by SP1 and SP2. So the RTM never had a chance to perform satisfactorily.

I don't have to sacrifice anything to fly with lod_radius 6

Yes I understand what you mean, but you have to disable some scenery to free up memory to be able to use that LOD level and enabling/disabling doesn't fit me(on shoe doesn't fit all) That's your compromise and mine is that I don't want to disable/enable all the time depending on where I fly so I make a compromise not raising the LOD. Either way we get what we want and that is not getting OOMs B)

 

Nice video BTW