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I am considering getting a new weather engine. I currently have rex plus w-overdrive and love the textures. The load times are frickin killing me though and when the weather updates clouds just instantly appear or disappear. I am looking at active sky 2012 and Opus. My flights tend to be pmdg 737 ngx. I am using vox atc and EFB. Based on my addons which would be the best fit. It seems like EFB likes AS2012, but I do not have ezdoc and would like the camera feature that comes with opus.   

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I would recommend OPUS the weather feature alone makes it great and the great camera utility is icing on the cake to me

 

Lee

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AS2012 is very good, very stable and comes with its own textures as well.

Opus has a demo, give it a try. Another engine you can consider is FS Global Real Weather, it is also very good, and has a demo available. There are a few threads comparing the weather engines in the FSX forums, they can give you an indication of the features people use, but you need to try them so you find the one that suits your flying.

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I always used AS2012 (well, FSMeteo long before, but no longer a player... For winds and Temp aloft it is very good, and you can tune it according to the type of flights you're going to simulate (low level VFR, IFR, high level...).

 

I have also been reading good reviews of FSGRW!

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AS2012 all day long.

 

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FS Global Real Weather with REX textures, go try their demo! Great program and simple to use.

 

Cheers

Martin

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I've tried the most of the popular weather programs and recently changed to OpusFSX, its the best weather program I've used to date.  Its a  small 13mb download, has excellent weather synthesis, light footprint and little impact on framerates. Try the demo, you won't be disappointed. 

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I'll have to get behind OPUS myself.  It works as lightly and flawlessly as you could want.  The camera features are an extra bonus.  I always had problems with Active Sky changing suddenly, not matching real world weather reports, and suddenly clearing up on arrival.  I haven't tried FS Global Real Weather but it also has good reviews, but I know for sure that OPUS works well.  Also the developer updates it continually, and OPUS now features flight planning reports and weather maps.

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OpusFSX. SInce the OP already has REX he doesn't need the AS2012 textures which COULD have been a reason to go for AS. However, if he doesn't like how long it takes REX to load he also won't like how long it takes AS to load. OpusFSX all the way, specially since he is also interested in the camera part of Opus!

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I'v been using AS from version 6.5 in FS9 until AS 2012 SP2. When I got my new PC in December 2012, I bought Opus FSX which I really liked. It is a huge improvement over AS, but I always missed all the possibilities of Ezdok which I actually didn't want to install again by that time, due to the fact that installing all my addons on the new machine was already a lot of work.

When FSGRW came out, I tried the demo version on two flights, and it just blew me away. This tool provides the most realistic weather, is a breeze to set up and use and doesn't affect FSX performance at all. It is the best weather engine I've ever used so far. The winds on approaches can be very challenging (the local weather effects are phenomenal), while in cruise, I never had a single wind shift in FSGRW. Combined with REX and Ezdok, I have the most immersive experience since I started flying MSFS some 15 years ago.

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I agree with Michael above.  I'm an avid user of AS2012 but now I can't seem to stay away from FSGRW.  I tried OPUS when it first came out and still have it installed with the latest beta but the popping clouds and wind shifts just get on my nerves and I do understand its a limitation with FSX.

 

Somehow FSGRW has completely done away with wind shifts not using DWC but FSUIPC.  I'm not seeing any popping clouds or wind shifts and really enjoying this program.  I recommend it highly.  I still use AS2012 but rarely touch OPUS anymore but still track the beta's for any significant changes.

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I ended up getting opus. The cameras for 737ngx is nice compared to the default cameras. So far I have been happy with the weather generation and I actually took a F-18 out for a flight to see some of the clouds quickly. Flying through the clouds seemed good. Time will tell if I will be fully happy with the purchase, but it is nice not to have to wait for rex to load up. 

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Now you've already bought Opus but otherwise I would have suggested fsgrw. I have all weather engines and like someone else said above I've never used a better weather engine!

 

What I like most is how the weather actually affects your aircraft and I too have experienced some very challenging (fun) approaches and landings since I got fsgrw. Also the weather is injected into FSX extremely fast since it as I understood it is prepared and processed on the fsgrw servers and with the recently released build #007 the weather injection is even faster than it was before. I would say the normal time to inject the weather is 1-2 seconds!

 

If I was in your position although you already bought Opus I would give the fsgrw demo a go.

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If I was in your position although you already bought Opus I would give the fsgrw demo a go.

 

I wanted to give FSGRW a try, but it seems that the demo turns off the Dynamic Weather option. That makes it difficult to compare how the weather injection process affects the flying experience (i.e. frame rates, etc.).

 

Ernie

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I wanted to give FSGRW a try, but it seems that the demo turns off the Dynamic Weather option. That makes it difficult to compare how the weather injection process affects the flying experience (i.e. frame rates, etc.).

 

Ernie

 

Yes I know. Before buying FSGRW I downloaded the trial version myself but just like you found this to be a problem for the exact reason you bring up. I actually sent the developer of FSGRW a note about this suggesting they should find another approach for the trial version allowing you to try the full product but maybe have a limitation instead where the trial version will expire after x amount of time. Never received an answer unfortunately.

 

In the end I simply took my chances and bought it anyway and I'm glad I did despite already having all other wx engines but I fully understand if you don't feel like doing the same thing now that you just bought OpusFSX.

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I only own REX, so that's not an issue.

 

I am however, looking at the OpusFSX and its demo has a limitation in that it only funcitons for 8 minutes at a time. 

 

The weather doesn't change that much in 8 minutes unless you can catch a fast moving thunderstorm, so determining the weather injection impact becomes a problem also.

 

Fortunately OpusFSX affords is the ability to return it if you don't like it.

 

Ernie

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Yep, Flight1's 30-day refund policy is really great!

 

I wish more would have such a great policy because it's not funny to spend your hard earned money those times you're not happy with what you bought afterwards for whatever reason.

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Hi guys, you make me want to buy FSGRW....but what does it have more than ASE I own?

 

I'm trying the demo, very simple (usefull and appreciated) UI, and weather seems a little more real.

 

I like the fact you can save downloaded weather, store it and reload for a second flight session, usefull for my long haul flight.

 

I noted it use FSUIPC, but does it need registered version?

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I wrote in other threads and maybe also in this one why I prefer FSGRW but main reasons again:

 

- how fast it injects the weather

- how quick and simple the UI is

- how it depicts IMC and LIMC

- how you can actually "feel" the weather in the aircraft's handling

- local special weather effects at certain airports and more to be added (very cool!)

- no cloud popping

- how the weather somehow is rendered on the servers, this I think is what's making it so fast

 

And I'm sure there's more but this was just out of my head.

Forgot to answer your question about FSUIPC.

 

I'm pretty sure you won't need the registered version to use FSGRW but might need it to take advantage of all features in FSGRW. You should double check this though by sending your question to the developers or post your question in their own forum unless someone else in here knows for sure.

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I don't know how it compares to AS but it doesn't require a registered FSUIPC as far as I know.

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Fsgrw? Where have I been? Never heard of it. Got to have a look.

I have used Active Sky since FS9. The newest update to AS2012 have turned out to be a nerve eating experience. i liked Active Sky X with XGraphics although it had that awful fog layer problem in the mountains. The AS2012 seems to be a moody piece of software and the graphics are...behind Fsx own. i suspect that it does not connect properly with sim, so maybe it gets better after tweaking and trying or I take a shortcut and return to ASX.

 

Opus was very promising, but it felt a bit of a prototype still and the camera option messed my views and were painstaking to set up, although a far cry from the set up nightmare of EZDOK. With REX I experimented with FS9 and the loading times were so long that I had to bed before I could get airborne and the textures were not to my taste. If you build your own weather manually and use perhaps some extra cloud textures you can have ok weather with default fsx too.

 

I would say take some time to make up your mind.

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Visited fsgrw product page. Got to say they don't brag about their product too much. Very little information...

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Had a go with FSGRW last night from YBBN to YMML...I knew we had jetstream conditions from the West but a cold front to the south....I had 153 knots from the west/south west at F360 down to F300...spot on.

 

As I got further south, winds died and changed direction slightly, which was again, spot on as per synoptic chart and known conditions. From PKS I could see the low layers of Strato-CU at lower levels, and they were thicker as I flew towards them. Very impressive I must say. Never a wind shift, the wind was as per real life, it was never stationary, very realistic.


Visited fsgrw product page. Got to say they don't brag about their product too much. Very little information...

I did interview Bernd, find it here:

 

http://forum.avsim.net/page/index.html/_/interviews/fs-global-real-weather-an-interview-with-bern-r1411

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