Completely agree!!!! Stopwatch and compass FTW!

 

Best regards,

Robin.

 So using  a road map is  good to go as well :lol:

I never use the HGS, You will be just fine  :wink:

 

Me neither... I have never actually utilized it...

I must say that I find the HUD on the NG to be rather cluttered. I also rather dislike like the dynamically changing spacing of the pitch attitude indicator - I find that quite disconcerting.

 

Best regards,

Robin.

Me too... Wondering how many pilots in the real world are using it?

After a dozen of so of my intial full flights with the NGX shortly after release I realised as much as I liked the HGS, it would spoil me. So I limited my HGS use to low visibility and failure conditions for the very reason stated by the OP.

As a long time (v) flier, mainly with hardcore combat jets like the FBMS F16C/52, IMHO the HUD/HGS is absolutely indispensable and should be standard equipment on all modern jets, combat or civilian commercial.

 

Any device that keeps your eyes outside and not having to constantly recage inside and outside is most valuable.

 

I'm a little puzzled by those who are so quick to write this off.

 

Cheers.

I tried the HGS a few times and it made it so easy to land that i've now stopped landing it. For real world applications that thing is incredibly useful i imagine, but in the sim - i'd rather look out the window normally.

If a real airline pilot had the choice what would they prefer?

 

The HGS is not just something that's nice to have for the pilots. From the airline's perspective, it allows take-offs in lower visibility (~350 m or 1000 ft) and CAT II and CAT IIIa approaches without the use of the autopilot. Without the HGS, the crew would have to wait until the visibility lifts a bit higher before they can depart which has a big impact on the airline's costs.

 

 

Anyway what are your thoughts? Are you worried that your flying skills have degraded because of the HGS?

 

Turn on FPV.  It's the next best thing.

HGS is very handy in low vis. conditions & it does make visual landings a piece of cake...surely the Asiana 777 crew at SFO wish they had it :wacko2:

I think it's one of the best features of the NGX. PMDG made an superb job with it! Handflying approaches in 0-0 vis. is a lot of fun, I've used it fairly often for training & system familiarization, so I 'm glad it's there, when needed!

AFAIK having HGS in the 737NG is a luxury. IRL, especially in EU I don't know of any airline using it, maybe somebody could enlighten me on that? or how many % of all NG's have them installed?

Am pretty sure FedEx have HUD equipped 777's would be nice to see them as an expansion in the future. Something I wanted on the PMDG MD11F

 

I have heard the same thing but I have not researched it. As for PMDG adding it as an option on as an expansion that would be awesome.

 

The HGS is not just something that's nice to have for the pilots. From the airline's perspective, it allows take-offs in lower visibility (~350 m or 1000 ft) and CAT II and CAT IIIa approaches without the use of the autopilot. Without the HGS, the crew would have to wait until the visibility lifts a bit higher before they can depart which has a big impact on the airline's costs.

 

Frankly I don't understand why all airlines do not have them in all new airplanes they take delivery of. Of course I have no idea if the HGS comes installed by Boeing or if it is a after market custom addition. I believe with out researching this that the HGS comes with the 787. Obviously its a great tool for pilots. 

 

I have heard the same thing but I have not researched it. As for PMDG adding it as an option on as an expansion that would be awesome.

 

 

Frankly I don't understand why all airlines do not have them in all new airplanes they take delivery of. Of course I have no idea if the HGS comes installed by Boeing or if it is a after market custom addition. I believe with out researching this that the HGS comes with the 787. Obviously its a great tool for pilots. 

 

Because HGS is absurdly expensive and it doesn't have any real cost savings for the airlines, and with aircraft technology today, you don't need it to shoot CAT III approaches (on the extremely rare circumstances where you actually have CAT III weather).

I follow "my" airline's SOP so it's HGS at every takeoff and landing.

 

To keep sharp, I just fly visual circuits without the HGS once in a while, occasionally adding in 1 engine INOP or something...

 

Anyway, it's your sim. You bought it--use it however you want 

Because HGS is absurdly expensive and it doesn't have any real cost savings for the airlines, and with aircraft technology today, you don't need it to shoot CAT III approaches (on the extremely rare circumstances where you actually have CAT III weather).

That may be true but as in many industries safety drives airlines to change. I am sure installing break-in proof cockpit doors were expensive and considered unneeded. I remember as a kid flying and watching the stewardess shut a curtain to the cockpit. I am sure airlines will not voluntarily install HGS but at some point if an airline crash could have been prevented by an HGS then it will become industry standard.

 

 

 

 

I very rarely  use the HGS. I started flying in the right seat last summer and liked it so I stayed.