^{Okay, I guess I am just to used to 2D. I am just not able to enjoy the sim in virtual cockpit, Is there a trick to this or just something that takes getting used to?}

 

 

Choose one of the many VC views as your "fixed" view (... onto the glareshield) and undock and drag the 2D views of the MFDs and the control panels you need to your 2nd monitor.

I agree that $90 is a lot of money. I'll be buying the A2A C172 first, and then the 777 perhaps sometime later... or never. I'm undecided yet. But right now, I just can't cough up the money. To all that bought it already, have fun!

I would re think that .

The 172 has a lot of problems atm, the biggest is clickspots go. They have 3 pagers in the tech help already.

 

The 777 what I've seen so far works perfect. Waste $50 on a plane that ATM is INOP for a lot or $90 for one that works out the box? Your call.

 

 

For something that is just a luxury commodity, $90 is a big number. Ergo, no reason to defend the price of the T777! It's a question of wanting to spend $90 on a FSX addon or not, and that's highly personal.

 

+1 (or a gazillion in fact  :lol: ). Couldn't have said it better myself in any way.

I would re think that .

The 172 has a lot of problems atm, the biggest is clickspots go. They have 3 pager in the tech help already.

 

The 777 what I've seen so far works perfect. Waste $50 on a plane that ATM is INOP for a lot or $90 for one that works out the box? Your call.

 

It is my call indeed: Pay $50 for a plane that many have already said is stunning and, knowing A2A is sure to be fixed in due course, or pay $40 extra on a plane I'll fly twice in the period of 3 months. Hm, difficult. I think I know what I'm going to buy... Nope, not going to "waste" those $40. Instead, I'll buy food from that.

 

That said, I won't buy the A2A C172 for another few weeks. Let's see what the situation of that plane is, then and there.

 

Waiting is a good call. I hope it gets sorted and you have many hours out of her.

I bought it just as soon as their servers eased enough to do so.  I agree, $90 is a lot of money, but I don't believe the addon is not worth it.   Mmmm.... is that a double negative or some such thing;-) I think it’s well worth the money.  Not just for me, but for what it IS!

 

Being on a fixed military pension, addons have to be carefully chosen for me.  However, I KNOW from past experience, that a PMDG addon will ALLWAYS give me a great return over not just months, but years.

 

Being quite ill at the moment, I've only managed one short flight so far, and like someone else, I'm getting the skeletal glitch when switching to spot view.  This is with a new setup and the HIMEMFIX or whatever its called. It will get fixed though.  Of that I’m pretty sure.

 

What I would like to say though, is a MASSIVE well done to whoever created thelarge intro document and the 1st tutorial.  I have well over 100 payware addons for my flight sim, and no other manual even comes close to these.  I talk from the perspective of one who suffers cognitive issues after a head injury and subsequent tumor.  The manuals are superbly laid out, simple and to the point, easy to follow and unlike many I’ve seen, are not riddled with syntax and grammatical errors. It might be a trivial thing for some.  For me it is not.

 

WELL DONE PMDG!!! Really looking forward to throwing myself into this when I can.

Just performed my initial test flight. Same one used when purchasing all addon aircraft. By far the smoothest test flight in all phases I have ever flown. Better than the NGX even! being familiar with the NGX FMC setup page made it a simple task to setup the 777. very well behaved flight model!!!

On my way to Islamabad from Stockholm, sunset is approaching, the office is looking awesome! She really climbs like a bat out of hell, even with a pretty heavy load. Loving this aircraft through and through. 

How fine are you guys with price bumps every model? There were so many of you guys preaching the praises of the NGX when it dropped for $69.99.. Suddenly T7 for $89.99.. Who's going to be ready to shell out $109.99 for the next study level model? How many of you were saying Ariane was the devil for their $100 737? I'm not speaking about their less than stellar customer service..

 

What justifies a $20 dollar price bump for every new airframe?

 

-Damien

How fine are you guys with price bumps every model? There were so many of you guys preaching the praises of the NGX when it dropped for $69.99.. Suddenly T7 for $89.99.. Who's going to be ready to shell out $109.99 for the next study level model? How many of you were saying Ariane was the devil for their $100 737? I'm not speaking about their less than stellar customer service..

 

What justifies a $20 dollar price bump for every new airframe?

 

-Damien

My feeling is PMDG feel the FSX add on market is shrinking as time goes on.  That means less potential revenue for them.  In addition customers are demanding ever more complex aircraft which of course leads to increased dev time. I would not be at all surprised to PMDG release their next aircraft as very close to $100 or more.

 

Bryan.

How fine are you guys with price bumps every model? There were so many of you guys preaching the praises of the NGX when it dropped for $69.99.. Suddenly T7 for $89.99.. Who's going to be ready to shell out $109.99 for the next study level model?

If it carries the same incremental level of improvement and development over the last, that this one does ........... me.

I can't speculate on size of market, development costs, etc. etc. because I know from past experience that assumptions about all of the above can be wildly and often humorously inaccurate.

 

But I can say directly that the value of the 777 in terms of detail and capability when compared with the 737NGX, as great as the latter is.... is well beyond the extra cost of the add-on.

 

There's simply far more to it, in a lot of different ways, some obvious, some subtle, across the board.

 

Heck, the livery/documentation/support operations center alone is worth an extra ten bucks not to have to squint and pray as I download and install liveries/try to provide info if an issue comes up/go hunting again for where the manuals are, hoping Adobe Security hasn't locked itself up trying to open one, etc. etc.  And that's just a tiny fraction of the new stuff present, entirely unrelated to the systems simulation, animation, FDE, flight planning info, RAAS inclusion, EFIS, and more.

 

As expensive as it might look, this effort is a bargain compared with what you'll get for nearly the same price this fall on any next-gen console game title, no matter how good.

 

 

RAAS inclusion

 

That's definitely a good point considering it's a 3rd party addon, but still. I'll probably wait until the 300 is out and then evaluate the cost of the full package.

A big congratulations to the entire PMDG team!  This has raised the bar again and will be the standard to follow. 

It is a beautiful aircraft with such detail and precision. The startup sounds just blew me away. Cranked it and my subs did the job especially on exterior views. 

 

As for the cost. Yes indeed $90 is very expensive, but given PMDGs reputation, and the quality of work they put out, you know its going to be worth it. To argue it, perhaps devalues the members of the team and the hard work they have all put in. Including RSR and TABS putting up with the fiasco that goes on in these forums. 

Im on a disability pension indefinitly, but given the above that I knew it was coming out long in advance, there was a pmdg 777 savings set aside, so this didnt hit me hard as if it was a one time off the disability income. 

For me this aircraft and others for that matter is a joy to fly, and is a distraction from the normals pains etc. 

Thanks Rob and Ryan for the experience!

At the end of the day, I can't afford the 90 bucks right now. I'm a new fligh instructor here in the states. The pay is horrible and quite frankly I need to pay bills before paying for an add-on. However, I am going to but it ASAP for one reason. With the current state of the industry, I may never ever get to step foot on the fligh deck of a 777. So I think 90 bucks is extremely worth it to spend on an add-on which is effectively the same exact airplane as its real world counter part.

 

I believe that when we pay for add-ons, we aren't merely paying for the software. We are actually paying for the entire experience that we cannot achieve in the real world. If one takes a step back and sees that they may never get to fly said add-on, the price point may seem more reasonable. I mean after all...those with the md-11 payed like what, 6-10 less?