Lol - can you smell the testosterone?

 

I wonder why the UK and German are so prominent in Europe?  

I'd be interested in how many of our fellow simmers are also real world pilots (Pvt-Com) and if any use it to help stay proficient, IFR or student ( I know not faa approved)

What the heck is "Spotted Dick"???

I thought I was on AVSim, not Playboy... :Thinking:

Very informative. Tells me a few things:

 

1.  We are an educated, older crowd with disposable income.

2.  We need to attract younger simmers for the next generation.

3.  We need to attract female simmers to keep the forums civil!

 

1. Not surprising, although I've been simming since my dad first got me a zx spectrum and psion's flight simulator. And I'm still just 37!

 

2. True, but having done quite a few flight sim shows, there are plenty of little kids, teenagers and families who enjoy simming. So there is a next generation coming. Whether we have a platform for them is another matter.

 

3. As one of the few women on the site, a little less testosterone would be nice. But I know well enough to keep out of certain threads to avoid the 'my wang is bigger' types of arguments. (I'll leave you all to contemplate which ones those are )

OK, off topic, but since you asked, Spotted Dick is a traditional British pudding sometimes referred to as Spotted Richard by those of a delicate disposition.

 

I'm guessing there are probably quite a few more female flight simmers who just don't have the time to complete surveys. After all (from my experience) there are a healthy number of female pilots in the RW. I would have been interested to see how many RW pilots use a flight simulator.

 

Cheryl

So much data, so little ground time to absorb. Only a few surprises for me. I would also like to see some data with numbers of RW pilots that FS at Avsim.

 

Biggest surprise is the popularity among types is aircraft. Short haul regionals. Hmmm.

Second surprise was how many active flyers in Vatsim or other online system.

 

I see some of the data is displayed in reverse order. Most is 'right side' positive, a few are 'left side' positive, but still interesting data.

 

Thanks to everyone involved in presenting and responding to the survey. Let's keep fine-tuning and improving it.

 

Regards,

 

Ray

 

btw - We just returned from our Christmas vacation to Colorado. Flew United CRJ700 AUS - DEN going and

737-800 return. KDEN covers 53 sq miles and expanding all the time. Makes me want to read more about the Aerosoft CRJ700/900 and to keep up with the Flightbeam KDEN progress.

As a builder of full scale instrument panels for the LJ45 and King Air (for simulator use), these results are very telling. No doubt that the short haul airliners like the two kings (B737 and A320) rule the hobby in many ways. It makes me wonder, "why?". Is it because of the amount of time to fly a short haul is less than long haul (737 vs 777)? Is it because they are typically a bit simpler to learn in some ways? Is it because that's what most folks fly on for a typical flight to go on vacation/holidays/visits to family, etc.? I think that a main issue is that it's "If you build it, they will come" to a certain point. The short haul airliners hold a very strong fascination for some reason and I'm sure that many of the reasons stated above contribute to that. I do wonder, if all of a sudden we had PMDG-esque business aircraft such as LJ45, Pilatus, Beech, Citation, and yes- Gulfstream (please dont say "it's not legal"-we all know this by now, or at least most of us that's been around long enough)- If we had them in droves by multiple vendors like we do 737's, would there be a ground shift from airliners to business aircraft? I think part of the appeal of the airliners is that it might be like a kid seeing a firetruck zooming down the road with lights ablaze. When you see your first airliner and then compare it to a little Cessna/Beech/Piper, it's very engrossing and "big". Plus, I think part of the mentality is that anyone with enough time, money and access can fly a Cessna/Beech/Piper. Not so for the airliners, so because there's little hope for ever getting that ticket then folks tend to gravitate toward an airplane they might not get to fly in real life. That certainly seems to be true in the sim building hobby, although we have seen a slow shift away from airliner cockpit projects and toward General Aviation, Business Aviation, and Combat sims. 

 

Again, thanks to everyone who participated in the poll and especially to AVSIM for hosting it. 

Very interesting and useful.

 

My 30 year old sons play the first person shooters.  Would not be caught dead doing flight sim.  My 30 something daughter plays Sims.

 

Women are from Venus and Men are from Mars....doesn't that explain the flying thing mostly?  My wife will sit down and do cross word puzzles, Sudoku's etc but would never be seen programming a GPS (she says it's too complicated)...hummm.  Wifee uses an E-Reader but doesn't like computers...(huh), I like my books to be real no ereaders...odd eh.

 

Interestingly, they all find it fascinating to watch my bring my plane in for a landing using my pedals, throttle, trim wheel, yoke like a real plane.  And speak about how real it looks.  Go figure.

Please include Gibraltar in the list of countries for 2014 so I am able to participate.

A P3D2 survey would no doubt produce interesting results........

 

What percentage of P3D2 owners are students? - 10%

What percentage of P3D2 owners purchased the Academic License? - 95%

 

:wink:

Please include Gibraltar in the list of countries for 2014 so I am able to participate.

 

It was. Read the raw data, the link to which was provided in the earlier messages in this topic.

Interesting data.

 

What I take from this is that the key to a successful payware product is to include a free pizza?

Very informative. Tells me a few things:

 

1.  We are an educated, older crowd with disposable income.

2.  We need to attract younger simmers for the next generation.

3.  We need to attract female simmers to keep the forums civil!

 

True, though students+unemployed combined make up the largest group. I was in that group not long ago. It can be frustrating sometimes, when even a basic GA aircraft or a single airport costs $39. This may create a barrier of entry for younger ones who haven't yet built up the required capital for flightsimming.

 

Very interesting and useful.

 

My 30 year old sons play the first person shooters.  Would not be caught dead doing flight sim.  My 30 something daughter plays Sims.

 

Women are from Venus and Men are from Mars....doesn't that explain the flying thing mostly?  My wife will sit down and do cross word puzzles, Sudoku's etc but would never be seen programming a GPS (she says it's too complicated)...hummm.  Wifee uses an E-Reader but doesn't like computers...(huh), I like my books to be real no ereaders...odd eh.

 

Interestingly, they all find it fascinating to watch my bring my plane in for a landing using my pedals, throttle, trim wheel, yoke like a real plane.  And speak about how real it looks.  Go figure.

 

I was about 12 when I started playing flight sims. Flight sims are very "uncool". It's not something you want to admit to doing, when everyone else is playing the latest GTA or Battlefield. It doesn't help that those games have millions of dollars of marketing and huge development teams behind them, using the latest technology that makes FSX look like something from the last century.

 

I'm sure many women also dream of dancing the skies on laughter-silvered wings. However aviation is very male-centric and macho. Programming the FMC or flying STARs is not everyone's cup of tea (I don't do that either), but there are many different aspects to flying/simming that don't involve "complicated" things. Surely there must be something for everyone.

Why do business jets have so little appeal (based on survey results)?

Why do business jets have so little appeal (based on survey results)?

 

Not sure. See my theory in my post above (#37).