April 24, 201412 yr Can you give me a rough idea what the perf hit for full Vector (in the configurator) over default FTX Global? I know FTX regions are a lot harder than FTX Global alone. I wasn't fond of the lack of a configurator for just this sort of control so may jump in if the perf hit isn't substantial. It appears from what 2.2 offers it may be the wrong time to ask this question as the perf hit might be substantially more in 2.2 or so it would seem. I only use small GA aircraft and Vector seems to impact my FPS as much as 30% in some urban coastal areas, but in less-urban areas I have the Terrain and autogen sliders to the far right, so I just back them off a bit when my FPS are suffering (I have two different saved custom graphics settings that I use). I'm using Orbx FTX Base, Vectors, and FS 2010 mesh, plus Active Sky Next and A2A's C172. ~ Arwen ~ Home Airfield: KHIE
April 24, 201412 yr No perceived benefit w/ HT enabled I guess is what you're saying? I am using 62 for my SB-E.. I probably should have pointed you to the "My PC" part of my profile. I have a dual Xeon workstation which used to be used for video editing. It has 12 physical cores and I run it with HT off. But to answer your question, I've never seen any difference with running it with HT on, although 24 parallel threads is overkill for pretty much any individual app. LM must have done something to spiff up the parallel processing in version 2.2, because the load is balanced nicely across all 12 cores. In the past, as others have pointed out, one CPU core would almost always be pegged at 100% usage. I'm totally speculating here, but I believe that LM is fine-tuning P3d for Xeon workstations, either single Xeons with high core counts or dual CPUs. The only drawback is that unlike my rig, the new Xeons can't be overclocked, since they have a locked multiplier. This approach should get version 2.x through at least 2014 and possibly beyond, especially for their pro user base.
April 24, 201412 yr Porting Prepar3D 2.x to DirectX 12 shouldn't be complicated. I think this is the Forza 5 video you are talking about ... don't know about you, but I hear "complicated" changes based on the what the developer was saying on how DX12 will operate. Obviously not impossible, but certainly not easy. Anyway, it's on the horizon, and there is active development, so Flight simulation does have a very nice future. Cheers, Rob.
April 24, 201412 yr denali, don't worry because in Vector 1.2, the data source for the North America will be switched to USGS Wow, that's sweet. See, I went to school to be an Architect, with an emphasis in urban planning. When I was a kid I used to love looking at maps. That's why current scenery inaccuracies don't cut it for me, and I have to go with photoreal. I really like the results I get from FSEarthTiles over any other photoreal vendor, and if I get time I might get some screenies. But Orbx does it for me when in close or at an airport, and if they do what it looks like they're going to do I'll be buying up all that. What I really hope for is what Orbx does over photoreal. Disclaimer: [email protected] on Asus Maximus X Formula, G.Skill TridentZ RGB 4x8GB 4266/17 XMP, EVGA 2080 ti Kingpin (8400/2160Mhz), Samsung 960 EVO 250GB PCIe M.2 NVMe SSD , 28TB HDD total - 4TB+ photoscenery, Romex Software PrimoCache RAM and SSD cache (must have!), 3x1080p 30" monitors, Samsung Odyssey VR HMD, Pimax 4k & BE HMDs, Samsung Gear VR '17, Homdio v1, Cardboard, custom loop 2x 360x64ML Rads, Thermaltake View 71, VRM watercool, Thermal Grizzly Conductonaut CPU (naked die), Fujipoly / ModRight Ultra Extreme System Builder Thermal Pad on MB VRM. 8x Corsair ML120 (slight positive pressure). 🙂
April 24, 201412 yr Wow I'm extremely impressed how well 2.2 runs with almost everything max'd out! However I forgot to back up my p3d nvidia settings before updating and it wiped it out. Is it necessary to tinker with that anymore or can everything be configured inside p3d itself? ASUS ROG Maximus Hero XII ▪︎ Intel i9-10900K ▪︎ NVIDIA RTX 3090 FE ▪︎ 64GB Corsair Vengeance RGB Pro ▪︎ Windows 10 Pro (21H1) ▪︎ Samsung 970 EVO Pro 1TB NVME SSD (OS Drive) ▪︎ Samsung 860 EVO 2TB SATA SSD ▪︎ Seagate 4TB SATA HDD ▪︎ Corsair RMx 850W PSU
April 24, 201412 yr There is always increased VAS consumption though. Vector consumes about 200MB or so on my setup. Agree, performance seem unaffected on my system with ALL Vector settings checked. I did have to disable AEC for KSEA ... there might be more airports I need to do this with, but haven't run into others yet.
April 24, 201412 yr My video RAM went as high as 3671MB using P3DV22 in ORBX_PNW on approach to Vancouver (about 3-400 is for system VRAM) not too much stuttering in windows 8 HRD and shadows active, really COOL views QUESTION: Is the professional version different only in license to the academic?
April 25, 201412 yr Has the nVidia 337.50 beta driver been a good thing at all for 2.2? I found the thread, but no comments about performance that I saw. Noel System: 9900X3D Noctua NH-D15 G2, MSI Pro 650-P WiFi, G.SKILL 64GB (2 x 32GB) 288-Pin PC RAM DDR5 6000, WD NVMe 2Tb x 1, Sabrent NVMe 2Tb x 1, RTX 4090 FE, Corsair RM1000W PSU, Win11 Home, LG Ultra Curved Gsync Ultimate 3440x1440, Phanteks Enthoo Pro Case, TCA Boeing Edition Yoke & TQ, Cessna Trim Wheel, RTSS Framerate Limiter w/ Front Edge Sync. Aircraft used in MSFS 2024: Fenix A320, Aerosoft CRJ, FBW, WT 787X, I-Fly 737 MAX 8, Citation Longitude.
April 25, 201412 yr Wow I'm extremely impressed how well 2.2 runs with almost everything max'd out! However I forgot to back up my p3d nvidia settings before updating and it wiped it out. Is it necessary to tinker with that anymore or can everything be configured inside p3d itself? If it runs well I'd leave it alone. A lot of us have gone back to default NI settings. Shuai Li
April 25, 201412 yr I set transparency supersampling to 4x sparse grid super sampling, as I get shimmering cockpit instruments (in some planes) and trees otherwise. But it does require a lot of GPU power, so if you're happy without it, then don't use NI: you'll get much better performance in clouds. I haven't found any other NI settings to be necessary or useful in 2.2. I didn't notice a difference (good or bad) with the latest beta driver.
April 25, 201412 yr Author Vector consumes about 200MB or so on my setup. Agree, performance seem unaffected on my system with ALL Vector settings checked. I did have to disable AEC for KSEA ... there might be more airports I need to do this with, but haven't run into others yet. Don't do that yet, Orbx are saying that Vector 1.15 (update between 1.1 and 1.2) will fix many airport elevations. QUESTION: Is the professional version different only in license to the academic? No, the Academic licence also has a watermark on the top right that you cannot remove.
April 25, 201412 yr QUESTION: Is the professional version different only in license to the academic? No, the Academic licence also has a watermark on the top right that you cannot remove. For reassurance purposes, the watermark and license criteria are the only differences between P3D Academic, P3D Professional, and P3D Developer. The programs themselves are otherwise identical.
April 25, 201412 yr Don't do that yet, Orbx are saying that Vector 1.15 (update between 1.1 and 1.2) will fix many airport elevations. No worries, it's easy to go back and forth with the Vector configuration tool ... beside how else could I fly out of KSEA without using AEC? I have seen any word on a Vector 1.15 update ... read about 1.2 ... you got a link to info on the 1.15 update? P3D Professional, and P3D Developer. The programs themselves are otherwise identical. The Professional Plus is not identical (that's what I'm using) - we get a different install and update set and there are some differences in code - also get 2 licenses. Cheers, Rob.
April 25, 201412 yr The Professional Plus is not identical... Which is why I left it off my list. Cheers! -G
April 25, 201412 yr Author I have seen any word on a Vector 1.15 update ... read about 1.2 ... you got a link to info on the 1.15 update? It has been referenced in many places, but this should do it: http://www.orbxsystems.com/forum/topic/77598-still-issues-with-sak-airports/#entry710524
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