Not my photoscenery...lots of custom placed houses, buildings , trees and objects....

France VFR, VFR Germany, Swiss Pro, Etc etc

 

Btw : from 5000 ft and up the world looks flat....

You don't get the whole world plus you have only the summer season and most times night ligthing sucks

You don't get the whole world plus you have only the summer season and most times night ligthing sucks

I have it everywherr I fly..

 

Btw : I use Night Environment

I prefer this..

 

 

To this mess...

 

 

Not impressed with Open LC. It's fine from altitude with autogen but peel back the layers and you can see all the mistakes.

Thanks for your feedback, great to hear you're enjoying the new setup of your using openLC!

 

Also interesting to hear how you've decided to keep UTX having it run along side of openLC but with the LC stuff in UTX disabled. I'm still on the fence wondering if the improvement over what I already got (UTX and Scenery Tech) is worth the cost but I already put both FTX Vector and this new openLC in my shopping bag over at The FlightSim Store so guess I will eventually hit that 'Check out' button :wink:

 

Would be great to hear (and see) more reports/screenshots from people who already went from UTX and/or Scenery Tech to FTX Vector and/or openLC and what your impressions are.

Yes...I have always liked how UTX does roads, etc...and while I have bought Vector for P3D, and have it installed there...I have yet to find a need to bring it over to FSX.  So...I enjoy both programs, each working for me, where I want. Yes..you only need to inactivate only the LandClass portion of UTX-Europe...and the rest works fabulously with Europe OpenLC.   I highly endorse this product, as it blows away GEX/non-ORBX Global install.......and now truly lets ORBX-Global, shine...as you see 'virtual world', and not merely the inevitable 'tile' you flew over three miles ago...    The forests and fields are so well done...you now fly...and no longer concern your mind to suspend 'disbelief'.  Again...a fabulous product, and so well worth the money they are asking for it.  The  product has close to 8,404 individual files...this being way more than merely Land Class arguments sent to the graphic engine.I personally call it  ORBX SUPER GLOBAL PLUS.   You know what?  It certainly looks like it from a gorgeous 1,800 feet AGL!!!!!     Because of this new addition to the fold...I keep flying LOWER......and soon, might be travelling on the roadways...so I don't miss a single detail, LOLOLOLOL!  I actually have altered my VFR cruise altitude. I always used to fly Global in FSX and P3D at 2,800-3,500.  Over the last two days...it is now 1,500 to max of 1,800 AGL.   There is only one reason for that.......   Yes...this comes Mitch Recommended, lol!  I am also going to get North America and South America...and then my Open LC will be for where I fly. At that time, I guess I shall delete UTX and fire up VECTOR also for FSX. I then will have universal, world-wide coverage (for South America) and can know that each will evolve alongside the other, as ORBX 'leaves no-one behind'  (smile).  Post Edit:  BTW, where I state 8,404 files....I always do a defragg after a product installation, and my defragg file count displayed live as that figure stated.

I prefer this..

 

 

To this mess...

 

 

Not impressed with Open LC. It's fine from altitude with autogen but peel back the layers and you can see all the mistakes.

The first pic is photoreal is it not?

 

Not exactly a fair comparison.

Well...I did something ahead of schedule.....and was inevitable for myself anyway...

 

In reading quite a few posts (after posting I still had UTX running in FSX) suggesting that Vector was a much more hand-in-glove solution for the two layers I did have for FSX, namely FSX Global, and Europe OpenLC...I decided to delete all my UTX products, and did so. I then installed VECTOR 1.15 for FSX.  Folks....no worries...it looks even BETTER than what I had in place with UTX.  I can now relax and ride the 'alignment' future upgrade path for both FSX and P3D.  Since I intended from the get-go, to also OpenLC-alize North America and South America...this was a logical move, to Vector v1.15.  It is a layer that is custom designed to work with all other Orbx products...and so....it now is supplying world-wide, my vector needs for FSX.

 

Happy flying all!

 

Post Edit:  Well, I have been UTX-free for about 20 minutes...and can say...that Vector 1.15 (ORBX) hands out WAY MORE DETAIL. For instance, around KFNT (Bishop) there are transmission lines and corridors that were never shown with UTX all these years.  Well...as soon as I took off, and started to look around for 'what-did-I-get-myself-into' first flight....there they were..the towers..and their corridors, just as in real life....many more objects, much better renditions of I-75 off and on clover-leafs..etc.  There is much more being punched out in going from UTX (X) to world-wide Vector 1.15.  I now highly recommend the move over.  UTX was/is a very good product. I see that Vector has moved on the vector franchise...and is truly better in putting down there, what actually in real life...IS THERE!

 

Anybody holding back...because of worries....don't.  Getting back to the flight..and I have not even made it over to Europe yet...still checking out my 'old and familiar'...

Bought it yesterday, installed today. Flew 1 hour around Landshut, EDDM and Munich with Cherokee, and all I can say is WOW! FSX never looked so darn real. This is the closest thing to the photo-scenery, but I like this even more. Whole europe in exact detail, with crisp and amazing ground textures. In combination with Vector, this is a simming nirvana. And I only scratched the surface.

Bought it yesterday, installed today. Flew 1 hour around Landshut, EDDM and Munich with Cherokee, and all I can say is WOW! FSX never looked so darn real. This is the closest thing to the photo-scenery, but I like this even more. Whole europe in exact detail, with crisp and amazing ground textures. In combination with Vector, this is a simming nirvana. And I only scratched the surface.

 

Nice - cant wait to get mine downloaded

I prefer this..

 

 

I'd certainly prefer that too !  But what exactly are we looking at here ?

 

Thanks!

I'd certainly prefer that too !  But what exactly are we looking at here ?

 

Thanks!

 

Not sure but maybe fs earth tiles

Downloading now, looking forward to installing and using and enjoying it.  Vector brought some needed NAV obstacles for me along with many other key navigation points for VFR.

 

If cost is an issue for some, wait long enough and they will eventually go on sale ... otherwise, you nor I nor anyone really have any meaningful input to "product pricing".  I do however know that if products aren't selling well, they are often put on sale soon after release.  I don't find Orbx products expensive considering the amount of work involved.

 

Orbx are not under any obligation to provide exact details of how they worked OpenLC ... but if someone wants to question the cost of the product, I would recommend you read the P3D or FSX SDK and to at least get some understanding of what work has to be done to implement a product such as OpenLC ... it will most likely give you a sense of why it costs what it costs.

 

I'm not aware of any freeware products to compare this with?

 

Also, payware products do come with support and updates (free in Orbx case).

 

And finally, Orbx provide considerable "freeware" airports designed to work with their product suite over time.

 

Also, something to bare in mind, a product "suite" will often blend better than many different products ... this is why some airport content providers (Sim720) and FSDT and FB - provide "special blends" or options (control panels) that offer blending with Orbx (or MSE or ...).  There is MUCH sense/logic behind using one company to make the world ... because many different products provide a world based on their interpretation and those many not all blend well together.  So what Orbx are offering is a "blended" world.

 

Cheers, Rob.

Yes I have Jan, but I still don't know what you mean exactly... Maybe it's to hot for my brain to work properly, so please enlighten me. All I'm reading in the red part is you shouldn't select FTX Global when flying inside a region.

 

OpenLC is a Global add-on and works only with Global selected

 

That's what it says, Bert, so if you have installed OpenLC and have FTX Europe and make that the active region in FTX Central you're going to see anomalies in textures placement. 

 

Would've been better if Orbx would've left out the 'Global' part with their OpenLC product. FTX Europe with FTX Europe OpenLC sounds a lot more viable.

 

Btw, it IS rather hot here, isn't it...  :Whew:

 

Groeten,

Jan

Tested it a bit more. Serbia is not detailed, texture repetition is clearly visible. A lot of green islands on Danube river are floating cities, dissapointing. Checked Montenegro also, Bay of Kotor is not detailed at all, no city of Kotor at all. Budva is there, and Bar is there, at least something.

 

So clearly ORBX did good job in Germany, France, Swiss, England, etc, but Serbia, Montenegro and even Greece is poorly done in terms of smaller towns. I was in Neos Marmaras (Sithonia, Greece) on summer vacation, and it's not even there.

 

But I think it's still far better than ST and UTX. UTX didn't even covered the Balkans.

Errrr....if you want FTX Europe and openLC Europe just use hybrid mode in "global"

Well...I did something ahead of schedule.....and was inevitable for myself anyway...

 

In reading quite a few posts (after posting I still had UTX running in FSX) suggesting that Vector was a much more hand-in-glove solution for the two layers I did have for FSX, namely FSX Global, and Europe OpenLC...I decided to delete all my UTX products, and did so. I then installed VECTOR 1.15 for FSX. Folks....no worries...it looks even BETTER than what I had in place with UTX. I can now relax and ride the 'alignment' future upgrade path for both FSX and P3D. Since I intended from the get-go, to also OpenLC-alize North America and South America...this was a logical move, to Vector v1.15. It is a layer that is custom designed to work with all other Orbx products...and so....it now is supplying world-wide, my vector needs for FSX.

 

Happy flying all!

 

Post Edit: Well, I have been UTX-free for about 20 minutes...and can say...that Vector 1.15 (ORBX) hands out WAY MORE DETAIL. For instance, around KFNT (Bishop) there are transmission lines and corridors that were never shown with UTX all these years. Well...as soon as I took off, and started to look around for 'what-did-I-get-myself-into' first flight....there they were..the towers..and their corridors, just as in real life....many more objects, much better renditions of I-75 off and on clover-leafs..etc. There is much more being punched out in going from UTX (X) to world-wide Vector 1.15. I now highly recommend the move over. UTX was/is a very good product. I see that Vector has moved on the vector franchise...and is truly better in putting down there, what actually in real life...IS THERE!

 

Anybody holding back...because of worries....don't. Getting back to the flight..and I have not even made it over to Europe yet...still checking out my 'old and familiar'...

Thanks you so much for your very detailed feedback, exactly the kind of feedback I've been waiting for!

 

Now I'm even closer to that' Check out' button and would be surprised if I haven't pressed it before EOD :wink:

Errrr....if you want FTX Europe and openLC Europe just use hybrid mode in "global"

Must have missed something, wasn't even aware there is a product called FTX Europe. Need to check that out!

I'd certainly prefer that too ! But what exactly are we looking at here ?

 

Thanks!

Yeah, I have the same question because it does look very realistic indeed!