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In the majority of life's areas, if someone wants something, it's readily available or doable. It may be expensive or rare but it's available or there are good other options.

 

Every time I fire up FSX I grumble to myself about the fact that there isn't a fast enough CPU in the world. I'm happy as heck with FSX but it runs just too darn slow.

 

And NO, I will not lower my settings. Its 2014, I require/demand visuals of today. Problem is, there is not hardware 'today' to run it at today's visuals.  :(

 

Why can't someone smart figure out how to use today's available tech to force any program run way faster. You know like how Raid 0 works with hard drives.

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Maybe it is time for you to get a new video card..

 

I do not have the world's fastest system, but with a 4770K @ 4.0 and a GTX770, my FSX is smooth as a baby's bottom, flying over Orbx scenery in my F33 Bonanza, RealAir Scout, or RV7 - and I could not be happier  :rolleyes:

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With all due respect, it sounds to me that you haven't thought your sentiments through.  I work in healthcare where all people want is to walk again, or live cancer free or see their loved ones alive again.  And not matter how much work and/or money you throw at it, sometimes that's just not possible. 

 

Perhaps some reflection would be in order.  Lowering your graphics settings just a bit to be able to enjoy this game would hardly be the end of the world.

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With all due respect, it sounds to me that you haven't thought your sentiments through.  I work in healthcare where all people want is to walk again, or live cancer free or see their loved ones alive again.  And not matter how much work and/or money you throw at it, sometimes that's just not possible.

 

There's something wrong with your ears, he won't be excluding that, we're talking about flight simulation.

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Yea tell me about it. My Internet connection runs at like 300bps.  Yikes

 

 

Regards

jja

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There's something wrong with your ears, he won't be excluding that, we're talking about flight simulation.

 

 

 

In the majority of life's areas, if someone wants something, it's readily available or doable. It may be expensive or rare but it's available or there are good other options.

 

That sure sounds like a major life crisis we're talking about here.  Not a flight simulation.

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That sure sounds like a major life crisis we're talking about here.

 

I too would like a 9GHz PC, it's not a crisis. Maybe really is time to get those ears checked out.

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Perhaps some reflection would be in order.  Lowering your graphics settings just a bit to be able to enjoy this game would hardly be the end of the world.

 

I understand where you are coming from, one man's problems is another man's envy sort of thing.

 

So yeah, I'm feeling first world selfish at the moment and looking at all the jawdropping tech we have yet are unable to get or force something old (FSX) to go fast as we want.

 

Heck, if my idea of Raiding CPUs could happen, perhaps we would have enough CPU power to help solve more disease, tissue or human physical issues.

Yea tell me about it. My Internet connection runs at like 300bps.  Yikes

 

 

Regards

jja

Oh don't even get me started on broadband and cell phone coverage. That's another whole huge peev of mine i.e. elitists in the urban area thing.

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 I'm feeling first world selfish

 

No need to apologise Derek.

 

I believe VB looks after someone and knows all about "healthcare sentiment".

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Maybe it is time to get a new video card..

 

I do not have the world's fastest system, but with a 4770K @ 4.0 and a GTX770, my FSX is smooth as a baby's bottom, flying over Orbx scenery in my F33 Bonanza, RealAir Scout, or RV7 - and I could not be happier  :rolleyes:

 

FSX is made for small GA. The real trouble and limits with the sim show up when you try flying big airliners like the PMDG 777X.

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FSX is made for small GA. The real trouble and limits with the sim show up when you try flying big airliners like the PMDG 777X.

Small GA really ? I fly the PMDG 777, and my sim does not slow down. FS9 I flew airliners as well, and fs versions before. A GA only sim, I don't think so.

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With all due respect, it sounds to me that you haven't thought your sentiments through.  I work in healthcare where all people want is to walk again, or live cancer free or see their loved ones alive again.  And not matter how much work and/or money you throw at it, sometimes that's just not possible. 

 

Perhaps some reflection would be in order.  Lowering your graphics settings just a bit to be able to enjoy this game would hardly be the end of the world.

Well said. I was thinking the same.

 

So many references to demanding this, wanting that, refusing to do this. I'm not judging you OP, but with that outlook, you set yourself up for nothing but suffering. The world will disappoint.

 

There's something wrong with your ears.

Maybe really is time to get those ears checked out.

I don't recall you ever coming across that rude Steve. It's quite out of character. The point made by Eric was perfectly reasonable when you reflect on the demanding, sense of entitlement, and lack of perspective evident in the original post.

 

I don't think it warranted a Developer on the scene, who normally comes across as measured and helpful to be making sarcastic comments about someone's ears and hearing.

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Small GA really ? I fly the PMDG 777, and my sim does not slow down. FS9 I flew airliners as well, and fs versions before. A GA only sim, I don't think so.

+++1 Julian.

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So many references to demanding this, wanting that, refusing to do this. I'm not judging you OP, but with that outlook, you set yourself up for nothing but suffering. The world will disappoint.

 

Couldn't agree more.  Also not judging, but instead offering advice... contrary to your (the OP's) statements, there are many things in life you can't have no matter your resources.  If you expect otherwise, you're definitely going to be frustrated.  A lot.

 

Maybe I've been around too long, but I'm continually stunned at what we DO have.  That doesn't mean I think things are perfect, or that I don't wish for better this or better that.  Just sayin' - take the long view and think about how far things have come.  And realize that there is still significant progress being made.

 

Scott

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Dude wants His 7+ year old sim to run half as good as what modern games run like....whats wrong about that?

 

We are on a flightsim site, not a world topic or life contemplation site....jeezzz

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Heck, if my idea of Raiding CPUs could happen, perhaps we would have enough CPU power to help solve more disease, tissue or human physical issues.

 

You're looking at it a little backwards. The problem isn't lack of processing power as there is plenty of that between modern CPUs and GPUs, but a major limitation in the way FSX itself was written. Short of opening up the source code and making major changes to the sim, FSX is stuck the way it is. This leads to the better solution being a new sim, or at least one that is being developed. P3D, X-Plane, aerofly FS and others, like Outerra and/or DoveTail's future development, are where the future lies as they can be developed to use modern computers. Between the laws of physics and economics, 10 GHz processors aren't going to happen any time soon.

 

There is a big difference between how hard drives and data work vs. single threaded applications and CPUs. Think of it like one woman having a baby in nine months, vs. nine woman having one baby in one month. One is possible, and the other isn't.

 

And when it comes to medical or scientific research, the software used will have been re-written for heavy multi-threading use as this is how modern super computers are so powerful (the top supercomputer has over 3 million cores...). Even workstations can have a 12 core CPU with additional processing power through Nvidia Tesla cards. They don't really need faster clock speeds like FSX does.

 

Of course this doesn't make it any less frustrating in the mean time.

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The fact that M$ created a sim that covers the whole world, is open to 3rd part development, and can still have a following after all these years is amazing. People knock FSX as crap, my thoughts are quite the opposite.

And before somebody mentions P3D, remember that is FSX that has been pimped. Frustrated with my sim, hell no.


+++1 Julian.

Well, it was bollocks aye Rick LOL

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The FS9ers would argue that FSX is FS9 that's been pimped. I don't think there are any FS8ers left to argue about anything at all.

 

Me, I'm just dang sick and tired of waiting for an accurate Wright Flyer with deep systems modeling. That and I wish I could buy beer and smokes online and have them show up in an email 5 minutes later. Other than that I'm pretty happy with my PCs, sims, etc.

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Well said. I was thinking the same.

 

I don't recall you ever coming across that rude Steve. It's quite out of character. The point made by Eric was perfectly reasonable when you reflect on the demanding, sense of entitlement, and lack of perspective evident in the original post.

 

I don't think it warranted a Developer on the scene, who normally comes across as measured and helpful to be making sarcastic comments about someone's ears and hearing.

 

Don't like my jokes - cool!

 

I don't think it warranted a Developer on the scene, who normally comes across as measured and helpful to be making sarcastic comments about someone's ears and hearing.

 

I'm sticking up for VB who knows a thing or two about healthcare sentiment. The problem for me is for Eric and Benneton being rude to the OP, because they found something to moan about.

 

Dude wants His 7+ year old sim to run half as good as what modern games run like....whats wrong about that?

 

We are on a flightsim site, not a world topic or life contemplation site....jeezzz

This sounds more like a reasonable view. My ears are good!

 

 

 

I don't think it warranted a Developer on the scene

That's quite rude too. Reference to my developer status should only be made if I'm posting with respect to my developments in FS. Here I'm only posting as a member of a flight sim community.

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I don't think it warranted a Developer on the scene, who normally comes across as measured and helpful to be making sarcastic comments about someone's ears and hearing.

Hear hear ;)

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The problem is that we are flying a flight simulator from the stone age that is no capable of utilizing the power of modern computers. End of discussion.

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The OP posters fallacy is based on an obvious fallacy.

FSX is an 8 years game that had no development for last 5 years. In addition, third-party developers and added more and complex add-ons over the years.

Why should the OP even expect it to run at today's visuals - it just isn't possible.

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The only way to deal with this is to get an i7 processor with a decent overclock allowance.

 

Then ensure you fit a decent cooler or liquid cooling.

 

Overclock to 4.5 plus and FSX will run great.

 

Clearly you need a decent graphics card and a hard drive with a decent speed (in my case, I fitted an SSD but that only improves loading times, of course).

 

Next step is to apply the recommended tweaks and then it's up to you whether you want to have a go at DX10 (I couldn't ever get this to run properly though).

 

And of course don't ever install fsx to the default location.

 

IAN

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Yo OP, your 2014-PC and FSX SP2 license has just been been revoked. A replacement system (2006ish - E6600, 2 GB DDR2 RAM, 8800GTS, conventional HDD) with Windows XP and FSX RTM installed is on the way and should arrive shortly.

You are to hand in a ten page essay about why a 2014 model PC, both service packs for FSX and Windows 7 are nothing short of a blessing and the best thing that could happen to the simulator after six months. A post-scriptum about the merits of P3D in relation to the original FSX is optional.

Grading will be done by the people firmly rooted in the realistic possibilities and limitations of hardware and software. A satisfactory grade will reestablish your license to use current hardware, but you're still subject to a two year probation.

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