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I LOVE Dovetail, and Steam, and ... FSX!

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It's Fatal, I always knew it...

 

whenever something new happens to MSFS, no matter where I am, how far from civil flightsimming, or busy flying for real ( something that hasn't happened lately thanks to Mrs Merkel ... poor lady, blamed for everything... ), I always eventually return, being unable to resist the call....

 

This turn around it was, of course, DTG's and Steam's fault :-)

 

I bought FSX SE for €4,99 - absolutely ridiculous!!! I bought, in my simmer life ( the conscious part of it... ) FSX about 4 times, 2 in the form of boxed versions that I sent to trash ( literally ) in one of my madness accesses, 1 through GFWL, and now the Steam Edition.

 

Each time I return to MSFS, and FSX in particular, there are a series of sensations that build up on my - complex - mind:

 

1) The beauty and simplicity of the sim when it comes to World rendering, even using the default install, when compared for instance to default X-Plane 10;

 

2) The Weather rendering, including effects of flying at cruise level without that awful aura limitation imposed by the 64 bit of X-Plane 10 ( 32 bit does a lot better in FSX in this area... )

 

3) The complexity of some extraordinary add-ons, like the RealAir's, the A2A's the PMDGs my only FSX Carenado ( the B1900D where for the first time in the history of using FSX I find a turboprop model with free-running turbine that strives to, and pretty much achieves a correct implementation of such details as the FF not varying with Prop RPM at fixed Condition and Throttle and Alt.... ), Majestic's superb Q-400, ASN for the weather, Steve's FSX for doing wonders for the performance and beauty of the way every thing is  rendered, ORBX for the only add-on I own from them, but does wonders for FSX SE - ORBX FTX Global!

 

4) Being again able to fly allover the World ( something I am limited to do in my Combat flightsim - DCS World ) or really can't say I appreciate in the same way in X-Plane 10 where I still lack proper Seasonal effects, and a plausible model of daylight and even Moon phases and ephemeris ...

 

But now, and while I wait for PMDG's 744, I am also able to use, with better results than when using XP10 for the same purpose, Aerowinx PSX 744 ( the best 747-400 simulator ever available for a PC simulation, and actually even competing with the LevelD 744 sims due to some details that even those multi-million $ sims do not model!!! ), this made possible through a great app named VisualPSX that allows FSX SE to be used as a visual scenery generator for PSX

 

So, I am back to this extraordinary flightsim - I can't name it any other way!  There's Majic in FSX, and when we look at the numbers even at the recent Steam / DTG franchise just now starting, we see that indeed many continue to find in FSX still the most adequate all purpose civil flightsim platform available in the market!

 

I look fwd for whatever DTG is capable in the future, including picking MS FLIGHT where it was left by MS, and merging that project with a new DTG flightsim, with the best from both platforms!

 

Well, I've got to go now... I can't recall how to start up the Q-400 :-( and it's a lot different from what I used yesterday in my 109 K4...

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Wow! My nomination for the post of the year. This says it all so well....

 

Doug

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I've done a transcon yesterday and the small, performance-increasing fixes that DTG implemented made it really pleasant.

 

Now if FSXSE can just hold up in terms of stability, I just might fly and develop more often.

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Just got FSX_SE today, and first impressions are quite good. P3Dv2 looks better, there's no denying that. But it's marginal. FSX_SE like it's MS ancestor has a rather ridiculous level of autogen popping. Again P3Dv2 is better, and by a mile on that one.

 

But FSX_SE is butter-smooth  B)  I haven't seen butter since last summer and it's such a joy to experience smooth flying again. Banking, panning, external, internal, takeoff or approach, rain or snow. Whatever you throw at it... butter.

 

Now every time I bank and look down on the silky smooth (ORBX) scenery down below I get that Jeremy Clarkson grin and just cant wipe it off my face  :lol:

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Yes, stability and smoothness is probably the best way to describe this reincarnation of FSX :-)

 

I have installed FSUIPC, Steve's Fixer latest version ( 1.6 I believe ), ORBX FTX Global, my RealAir's, my only Carenado so far ( the B1900D), the MAJESTIC majestic Q400 ( I was really missing this one...) am waiting for the PMDGs and ASN and this week I'll ask A2A to reactivate my installers :)

 

So, back to FSX for sure Ah! and still not an hint of problems when using PSX with FSX-SE, contrarily to FSX where I was getting a CTD here & there.

 

So happy that I am even considering the first DLC ( around the World in 80 days... ) and probably the next... and...

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I'm also enjoying FSX-SE alot now with my new 970 card.

I was able to skip SGSSAA and use DSR 4x with 20% smoothing instead and oh my... it's amazing.

Really looking forward to more updates and improvements from Dovetail.

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Another thing I noticed was all the niggling little bugs I had in some of my add ons have disappeared as well, eg VOXATC sound looping and finally I get to hear the Morse on ILS approaches. In general add ons integrate better on my system

 

And of course NO CTD! not one and Ive flown the pants off this thing, no CTD no OOMS even at ORBX YBBN and FSDT CYVR  :-)

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Yesterday I installed the Majestic Q-400, now fully compatible with FSX-SE as of the latest patch. I had a remarkable flight in bad weather around LPPT. Used the freeware FSXWX as a weather injector since ASN isn't yet available for SE.

 

I had a great experience, followed by a flight from LPPR to LPPT in the B1900d - Whow!!!

 

I don't know if they did anything for the cloud rendering, but it looks different, better, to me ?  

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At first I thought you were being elaborately sarcastic. So few people here are ever just plain happy about anything! I am glad to see that your sentiments are genuine. I am still mostly using FSX original because of ASN, but when I use SE I too have been happy with its performance.

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At first I thought you were being elaborately sarcastic. So few people here are ever just plain happy about anything! I am glad to see that your sentiments are genuine. I am still mostly using FSX original because of ASN, but when I use SE I too have been happy with its performance.

 

Oh, no sarcasm at all !  Quite on the contrary !  FSX-SE is the only version of FSX presently installed on my rig. It shares the sims folder with AEROWINX PSX, DCS World and Il2-BOS :-)

 

I'm also waiting for ASN to become available for it, as well as for the NGX and 777 ;-)

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l still have a dual install with FSX-SE installed on separate HD.  To date very impressed with FSX-SE and my three year old computer. For the first time I have been able to run everything with most sliders full right using Aerosoft Airbus 318/321. However, I am somewhat concerned since I still have not installed any of my Orbx scenery, FTX global etc.  I hope this will not bring my frames and smoothness back down to my FSX level. From what I have read Orbx still has not provided  installers for SE, which includes Global.  Would be curious if any have a dual install and were able to install their regions and cities to SE with a dual install. 

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MS FSX no SE is smooth and frame rates are high. However with FSX SE I suspect that when you are install Orbx, UTX, REX etc etc it will eventually become slower since Dovetail has not rewritten the original source code.

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I suspect that some amount of the improvement we see is from the new install and the lack of installation and de-installation of addons. Even so, this is obviously the way forward.

 

It is up to the addon makers to get up to speed and make their products compatible if they want to stay in business. I have been amused by the fact that people are mad at Dovetail because the addons aren't instantly working. Dovetail provides the platform, and it is the addon makers that must adapt to that standard.

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FTX Global presented absolutely no problem in stability, smoothness of frames to me :-)  That's the only 3rd party scenery I have though. Look forward for Aerosoft to update their Madeira installer though ...

 

I was also afraid of starting installations of any addons because, above all, I want an as smooth as possible visual platform for PSX, but it was so good that I couldn't resist bringing bag all of my old FSX add-ons ( not many ) and... I ended up infected :-)

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 and it is the addon makers that must adapt to that standard.

Thats only true if the product explicitly state it will support FSX SE. When you bought a flightsim addon, it does not include future updates for "new sims" unless otherwise stated.

 

That said, developers who refuses to tap into the new market ain't very clever.

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Thats only true if the product explicitly state it will support FSX SE. When you bought a flightsim addon, it does not include future updates for "new sims" unless otherwise stated.

 

That said, developers who refuses to tap into the new market ain't very clever.

 

Hey Joshua, I was just about to mention I wanted to get my preferred Airbus too, and apparently the A318/19 update is SE-ready, right?

 

I've been polling the Aerosoft Airbus X forums trying to read about what's new regarding the implementation of aircraft systems in the new series ? I am also interested to know if the FBW logic has been fine-tuned in this new version.

 

Does the new series include full ECAM Non-Normal checklists ?

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Thats only true if the product explicitly state it will support FSX SE. When you bought a flightsim addon, it does not include future updates for "new sims" unless otherwise stated.

 

That said, developers who refuses to tap into the new market ain't very clever.

Yes I agree. My point was that if they don't adapt they will lose out, and that SE had no responsibility to be compatible with addons marketed for FSX boxed edition.

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l still have a dual install with FSX-SE installed on separate HD.  To date very impressed with FSX-SE and my three year old computer. For the first time I have been able to run everything with most sliders full right using Aerosoft Airbus 318/321. However, I am somewhat concerned since I still have not installed any of my Orbx scenery, FTX global etc.  I hope this will not bring my frames and smoothness back down to my FSX level. From what I have read Orbx still has not provided  installers for SE, which includes Global.  Would be curious if any have a dual install and were able to install their regions and cities to SE with a dual install. 

Ive installed all of my ORBX stuff including Global and Vector (I only have FSX-SE but it wont matter for a dual install)

 

Just follow the advice on this thread, it looks a bit complex but you just modify 3 lines and your away. Once you install onto FSX-SE you then reverse the changes and you can use both sims

 

http://www.orbxsystems.com/forum/topic/89673-temporary-workaround-for-installing-orbx-scenery-with-fsxse/

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Well, as far as ORBX FTX Global goes it installed straight away no tweaks required ?

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It will install but it wont be active in the  FSX-SE scenery.cfg because the current installer only points to the FSX scenery.cfg

You can check your scenery library to make sure

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Are you able to install FSX-SE on the same hard drive with FSX?  How does that work if your using the same add-ons.  Say Aerosoft Airbus or ORBX?  Thanks!

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It will install but it wont be active in the  FSX-SE scenery.cfg because the current installer only points to the FSX scenery.cfg

You can check your scenery library to make sure

 

No, after the latest update by DTG, FTX Global installs perfectly and becomes active - easy to notice when you load the sim :-)

 

I also passed Seteve's Fixer over it :-)

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Ive installed all of my ORBX stuff including Global and Vector (I only have FSX-SE but it wont matter for a dual install)

 

Just follow the advice on this thread, it looks a bit complex but you just modify 3 lines and your away. Once you install onto FSX-SE you then reverse the changes and you can use both sims

 

http://www.orbxsystems.com/forum/topic/89673-temporary-workaround-for-installing-orbx-scenery-with-fsxse/

thanks all for your replies.  I did know about the this as a possible fix but I have also read that some may still have problems. Orbx did state they do plan to fix the installer for possible dual install.  Before I mess up both FSX and FSX-Se I will try to be patient and wait before I attempt the install.

By the way Steve advised me the fixer will not work on dual install. I do hope there will be a solution in the near future. 

 

The airbus was fairly straight forward if you use Aerosoft installer v1.2.1 which worked with no problem. However, you must make sure you do not allow it to install in FSX but do a browse and find where you have FSX-SE installed and point to the directory there.  I have had no prolems so far runing the airbuses on both FSX and FSX-SE.  One finally note - be sure before the install you disable your antivirus since at least for me would not allow certain files to be installed. 

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Also, I had none of the problems you describe probably because of two factors I forgot to mention:

 

1) FSX SE is the only version of FSX in my PC;

2) I used "FSX Registry Utility"  from TweakFS to change the registry entry of FSX to point to the steam packages folder where FSX SE is stored...

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