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I am currently using version 2.4 and am very happy with the way P3D runs on my system, I understand that in order for me to upgrade to 2.5 I have to uninstall all my add ons and P3D itself and start from scrach?

 

As I have quite a few add ons ( lots of ORBX regions/ global and a few payware aircraft) Can anyone advise me if it's really worth upgrading or should I stick with 2.4 for now? The thought of starting again is not a pleasant one ,

 

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Arh go on, theres nothing like a fresh install and cleaning all the garbage out and spending days tweaking again. honestly if your happy with 2.4 then don`t go there, me personally! i waited until the P3d patches were done and all the addons caught up, its a dream for me, 2.5 is smooth and shadows work great, water glitches now fixed, i could go on for hours.

 

Good luck Dazza in whatever you decide.

 

Rick

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It seems you have answered your own question. You are currently happy and don't want to re-install things.

 

If knowing that and it still bugs you enough to ask the question, then bite the bullet and re-install.

Life includes new experiences. 

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I am currently using version 2.4 and am very happy with the way P3D runs on my system, I understand that in order for me to upgrade to 2.5 I have to uninstall all my add ons and P3D itself and start from scrach?

 

As I have quite a few add ons ( lots of ORBX regions/ global and a few payware aircraft) Can anyone advise me if it's really worth upgrading or should I stick with 2.4 for now? The thought of starting again is not a pleasant one ,

 

flyuk_sig.php?id=UKV1523

 

Well for me personal V2.5 is the first version mature enough that I migrated from FSX to P3D as main sim ;-)

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  If you are installing to the same folder, just do NOT delete the P3D folders left after install. Install 2.5 and the majority of your add-ons will work just fine.

 

If you change folders, or delete the P3D folder after uninstall - you start from scratch.

 

In my case, I had FTX Global, FSGlobal, Vector, UTX,OPenLC and several payware aircraft. Didn't have to reinstall anything.

 

Copy your dll.xml and exe.xml and the cfg files to make minor adjustments.

 

Vic

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Well for me personal V2.5 is the first version mature enough that I migrated from FSX to P3D as main sim ;-)

 

Same here. I've had P3D since version 2.1, but 2.5 is the first version that I haven't stopped using and uninstalled within days due to bugs and issues.

 

Of course if you're happy with 2.4 and none of the fixes in the 2.5 release note are essential to you, you can stick with the older version for now.

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In the same vein, I was thinking about the 10 to 15 DVD files that made up the whole of FSGenesis Mesh, and wondered, should I keep my same scenery files or back them up so that I could overwrite the V2.5 scenery files?

 

Then, playing devils advocate with myself I said, "Chas, FSGenesis Mesh files have distinct file signatures...like FSGXXXDem.bgl...or something like that.

 

What about the different directories (folders) in which the FSG scenery files Reside?… Could you do an XCOPY /s? (I don't know if that DOS command even exists anymore)? I seem to remember that there were switches in the old xcopy to specifically copy files and their directory structure.

 

IF SO, then to just extract the current FS Genesis files for safe keeping, with their subdirectories, uninstall Prepar3d v2.4. install Prepar3d v2.5, and then copy the FSG files back into the new 2.5 scenery structure?

 

 

See Justin's OLLLLLD but still au courant, article about upgrading and FSGENESIS mesh , perhaps the single most important offering to enhance any flight simulator http://www.flightsim.com/vbfs/content.php?13844-Introduction-To-Terrain-Mesh/view/3

 

I will paste his article here if AvSim book burns and deletes the above link.

 

....by the way please Google Justin, as he appears to have lost his @ss in the FS Genesis sale to the current company, which is NOT JUSTIN's...

 

Because of this transaction and, I am sure several others, he is or was homeless… If that can be imagined.

 

See

http://www.flightsim.com/vbfs/content.php?13918-Interview-With-Justin-Tyme/view/2

 

http://www.toposim.net/blog/2014/12/18/starting-over-from-scratch/

 

Comments?

Chas

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You do realise you won't be able to install new scenery automatically though?  It would be a long winded exercise everytime, adding/ moving from different scenery.cfg's.

 

New Orbx releases would definitely be out though because of the change to FTX Central.

 

 

 

Oh, and greetings from a fellow UKV Pilot.  Currently over Greenland :) 

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You do realise you won't be able to install new scenery automatically though?  It would be a long winded exercise everytime, adding/ moving from different scenery.cfg's.

 

New Orbx releases would definitely be out though because of the change to FTX Central.

 

You Tawkin ta me??? Huh?..ya Tawkin ta me?..

 

..grinnn

 

Chas

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Darran,

 

I am still using 2.4, and I have no intention of upgrading to 2.5. I really don't see the point when 2.4 is nice and stable for me. It isn't as if 2.5 has a massive number of new features or enhancements for the average flightsim user.

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Carenado S550 for $19.99 - some nice sales - was not going to buy this but at this price may have to re-think it

 

http://www.pcaviator.com/store/home.php

 

Zinertek HD Airport Graphics V3 for $7.95 - bargain - all ready have it but great price for a great product

 

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  If you are installing to the same folder, just do NOT delete the P3D folders left after install. Install 2.5 and the majority of your add-ons will work just fine.

 

If you change folders, or delete the P3D folder after uninstall - you start from scratch.

 

In my case, I had FTX Global, FSGlobal, Vector, UTX,OPenLC and several payware aircraft. Didn't have to reinstall anything.

 

Copy your dll.xml and exe.xml and the cfg files to make minor adjustments.

 

Vic

I did exactly that and i can confirm it does work . Reinstalling doesn't seem to be a problem any more.

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That's a great offer, Glynn.....but I am not bothered about real world weather or a working weather radar at the moment.

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My Prepar3D installation was a mess.  After a year of fiddling with it I had a mess of planes that were either freeware, FSX transfers or paid.  I tried out some various scenarios, had some Oculus Rift apps, ect..  I had been working on slowly cleaning up the installation but would get sidetracked and not finished. 2.5 was a chance for me to work off a fresh install and only put on what over the last year I actually liked to mess with.  For me it's Orbx scenaries, ASN, Rex and a few payware planes.

 

As soon as I saw a majority of those things were supported I decided to make the move.  I had read it took people days to do this but for me it took 3 hours.  I uninstalled everything P3D related, deleted folders, ect.  As I installed each thing I booted up the application to make sure it worked and then I would move onto the next.  All in all it took less than 4 hours to complete everything.  A lot of the time was spent waiting on installs or downloads so may have been only an hour of actively installing things.

 

The only issues I had was having to manually move a terrain.cfg file for Orbx and patch ASN post 2nd P3D hotfix.  I also took account of what I installed and in what order.

 

- Prepar3D Academic
- FSUIPC
- Active Sky Next
- Rex 4 - Texture Direct 
- Orbx 
- Orbx Addon Airports
- Flight 1 GTN 650
 
 
Planes
- B/E 55
- RV4
- CE208
- Alabeo Waco
- Pipersport
- Cessna 207 Wagon

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I had no troubles upgrading this weekend to 2.5 with the hotfix.  ASN, ORBX FTX Global, REX 4, All my planes and airports work.   The only thing not working right now is FS2Crew (but that's because of the new 737NGX for P3D.  Patch coming soon) and VoxATC is managled.  Patch coming when it comes.  Hopefully soon.   VoxATC is an essential add-on for me since I don't like flying on Vatsim (can't ever understand the controllers with their $5 microphones).

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If you like shadows and reflections - Yes. Most issues have been addressed in v2.5+.

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(can't ever understand the controllers with their $5 microphones).

 

lmao - good one Brian  :) take care brother

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lmao - good one Brian  :) take care brother

 

XD   I am not being mean.  It's true.  It feels like a majority of the US controllers are using the cheapest garbage mic they can find.   The main reason I don't fly on Vatsim isn't because I can't handle the procedures it's because I am tired of having to say, "REPEAT AGAIN FOR <insert airline>" every SINGLE call.    Half the time when they give instructions I just guess what they said and respond.  It works most of the time.  XD   I think they forget they are not on a REAL radio network.   We have lag and a huge internet router system to go through which can degrade things and if you already are starting with a craptastic microphone and you speak like your ODing on crack then I can't understand what you are saying.  I think I am just getting old.  T_T

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I am currently using version 2.4 and am very happy with the way P3D runs on my system, I understand that in order for me to upgrade to 2.5 I have to uninstall all my add ons and P3D itself and start from scrach?

 

As I have quite a few add ons ( lots of ORBX regions/ global and a few payware aircraft) Can anyone advise me if it's really worth upgrading or should I stick with 2.4 for now? The thought of starting again is not a pleasant one ,

 

flyuk_sig.php?id=UKV1523

Yup...same boat...but when it came to waiting eight minutes for scenery to load...and sucky frame rates through-out...this afternoon I said," Screw it!... I'm moving over"… And tonite...

 

my scenery load is more like 30 seconds and it's absolutely glorious!!

 

Although I did make a backup of my scenery.cfg And UNINSTALLED 2.4, then proceeded to install 2.5 OVER the remaining file structure....keeping just about everything.

 

My frame rate is way up... the scenery shadows and cloud shadows and all of my payware scenery and airplanes are there ...I recorded Lancair at my DIY home airport, K69(see YouTube, this channel),P3d Turbine duke v2, touch n Goes at 1a6, and finally p3d version of PMDG's 737 NGX at Fly Tampa's St. Maarten-TNCM

 

OpusFsi, gave me my weather, and rumble and dynamic head movement and cockpit shake , and TrackIR, with its new drivers, my smooooth head tracking...my grin almost broke my face.

 

..... BOOOOOFULLLLLLL....!!!!!

 

And I don't know what LM did to the water but on my approach into Rwy 10 at TNCM, at 2000 feet, it made me want to jump out of the cockpit and go snorkeling ...it's dynamically gorgeous!

 

The frame rate was up in the 30s on my I7 2600 K/GeForce 770 2GB...

 

AT FIRST BLUSH, after 2 hours in P3d v2.5, it has never looked so lush and engaging, nor never run so smoothly... And NEVER given me such a rush in my 35 years of Flightsim experience...just DO IT!

 

Congrats Lockheed Martin!!!

 

Chas

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Yup...same boat...but when it came to waiting eight minutes for scenery to load...and sucky frame rates through-out...this afternoon I said," Screw it!... I'm moving over"… And tonite...

 

 

great write up on P3D - sounds like you are having a blast

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Thanks Rich!

 

Now, in another post I query about the 20,000 />130GB FTX files I have accumulated over the years, and what to do with them… Dump them all? And start over with the new installers or somehow salvage what I got…?

 

Leaning towards, the first option

 

 

 

Regards,

 

Chas

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Have decided to go for it and move over to 2.5 as I have noticed that some of the orbx lights are very bright at night in v2.4 and I believe this has been fixed in 2.5

 

Is there an uninstallation process I need to follow to uninstall 2.4 and what about my add ons such as FTX Global and regions. i am happy to start from scratch but just want to do it right first time

 

I then plan to install the PMDG 737 I recently bought :smile:

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Have decided to go for it and move over to 2.5 as I have noticed that some of the orbx lights are very bright at night in v2.4 and I believe this has been fixed in 2.5

 

Is there an uninstallation process I need to follow to uninstall 2.4 and what about my add ons such as FTX Global and regions. i am happy to start from scratch but just want to do it right first time

 

I then plan to install the PMDG 737 I recently bought :smile:

 

DO NOT just delete your P3D 2.4 folder.   You will cry for hours and lament life.   Uninstall all your add-ons first, then uninstall your P3D 2.4 then clean up left over file and directories.  Wipe it all out.   Install v2.5 and the hot fixes before you do anything else.    Boot up once, let it make it's shader files and CFG files.  Quit. 

 

Start installing add-ons.   The Order I did it in (in general terms):

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1. FSUPIC - Boot up.  Check that it's working.  QUIT.

2. Terrain type scenery (FTX GLOBAL/VECTOR/UTX/MSE2.0) - Boot Up.  Check that it's working.  QUIT.

3. Aircraft (PMDG/Aerosoft/Etc).   Boot up.  Check my plane list to make sure it is all there and textures are loading when I click on a plane to preview it.  QUIT.

4. Airports -  Check your Scenery.CFG file to make sure the airport installers actually installed the airport into the CFG file.   Use the EMT Migration tool on FSX Only airports to ensure proper installation of NON-P3D payware airport packages.

5. Utilities - ASN, VoxATC, ACCU-Feel, Etc.  -  All the other bells and whistles that make the simulator that much better.

 

FLY!   Be Happy!  Make love, not war!

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[...], and TrackIR, with its new drivers, my smooooth head tracking...my grin almost broke my face.

 

Hi Chas,

 

I have Version 5.2.2 - Final (Februrary 7, 2013). Are you referring to these or did I miss something?

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